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theoriginalsin

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:38 pm
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Hi - a couple of questions regarding web traffic analysis:

I have a managed server with oneandone . This allows me to host
several domain names yet only provides one set of logiles that
contains data for all the domain names.

Are there any analysis tools out there (preferably free) that will
allow me to provide statistics on each individual domain name i.e.
filtering out all of the other domain names. I have an old copy of
webtrends - does anyone know if this is capable of doing this?

Secondly, I have seen a few sites that provide free stats analysis by
putting a few line of javascript into their web pages. Can anybody
recommend any of these?

TIA

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:06 am
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"skinnybloke" <theoriginalsin73 DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi - a couple of questions regarding web traffic analysis:
 >
 > I have a managed server with oneandone . This allows me to host
 > several domain names yet only provides one set of logiles that
 > contains data for all the domain names.
 >
 > Are there any analysis tools out there (preferably free) that will
 > allow me to provide statistics on each individual domain name i.e.
 > filtering out all of the other domain names. I have an old copy of
 > webtrends - does anyone know if this is capable of doing this?
 >
 > Secondly, I have seen a few sites that provide free stats analysis by
 > putting a few line of javascript into their web pages. Can anybody
 > recommend any of these?
 >
 > TIA<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:19 am
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"skinnybloke" <theoriginalsin73.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi - a couple of questions regarding web traffic analysis:
 >
 > I have a managed server with oneandone . This allows me to host
 > several domain names yet only provides one set of logiles that
 > contains data for all the domain names.
 >

Is it a Windows Server? If so, you can use IIS to send each site's
statistics to a separate file.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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theoriginalsin

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:12 pm
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Hi - no it is an apache web server running on Linux.

I have access to the logs and to the webspace but not to the operating
system directories.

I can download the raw logs onto my pc for analysis though.

David

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 23:19:26 +0100, "OldWiseMan"
<oldwiseman999.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

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 >"skinnybloke" <theoriginalsin73.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
 >news:cctq70lvmlm12se50jigj4cle35qdh86iv@4ax.com...
  >> Hi - a couple of questions regarding web traffic analysis:
  >>
  >> I have a managed server with oneandone . This allows me to host
  >> several domain names yet only provides one set of logiles that
  >> contains data for all the domain names.
  >>
 >
 >Is it a Windows Server? If so, you can use IIS to send each site's
 >statistics to a separate file.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:25 pm
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:12:03 +0100 skinnybloke
<theoriginalsin73 RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at
to write:

 >Hi - no it is an apache web server running on Linux.
 >
 >I have access to the logs and to the webspace but not to the operating
 >system directories.
 >
 >I can download the raw logs onto my pc for analysis though.
 >

Do that, and get Analog. It has instructions on extracting the logs
relevant to separate domains (I believe, but as its free it wont hurt
to try).

Matt

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:36 pm
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Cheers Matt - I'll give that a go.


On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:25:07 GMT, comments DeleteThis @probertencyclopaedia.com
(Matt Probert) wrote:

 > On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:12:03 +0100 skinnybloke
 ><theoriginalsin73 DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at
 >to write:
 >
  >>Hi - no it is an apache web server running on Linux.
  >>
  >>I have access to the logs and to the webspace but not to the operating
  >>system directories.
  >>
  >>I can download the raw logs onto my pc for analysis though.
  >>
 >
 >Do that, and get Analog. It has instructions on extracting the logs
 >relevant to separate domains (I believe, but as its free it wont hurt
 >to try).
 >
 >Matt<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:03 pm
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Matt Probert wrote:

 > Do that, and get Analog. It has instructions on extracting the logs
 > relevant to separate domains (I believe, but as its free it wont hurt
 > to try).

Doubt it. Apache logs use a pretty useless format from that perspective.
Sample:

207.190.242.236 - - [15/Apr/2004:18:32:43 +0100] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2607 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)"
207.190.242.236 - - [15/Apr/2004:18:32:43 +0100] "GET /g5n-logo-black.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9354 "http://www.goddamn.co.uk/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)"
207.190.242.236 - - [15/Apr/2004:18:32:44 +0100] "GET /style.css HTTP/1.1" 200 462 "http://www.goddamn.co.uk/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)"
193.217.39.248 - - [15/Apr/2004:18:43:05 +0100] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 5935 "http://home.online.no/~ingerfaj/hjemmesider.html" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"

Clue: the access_log files don't include the requested host name Sad

You really need to do one of:

  (a) configure Apache to log requests for different domains into
  different log files. You will need to look into the CustomLog[1]
  directive; or

  (b) configure Apache to use a different[2] log format. You will
  need to look into the LogFormat[3] and CustomLog directives. Clue:
  %{Host}i

Unfortunately these directives *cannot* be set in .htaccess files -- they
must be done in the main server config or vhost config files.

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[1] <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_log_config.html#customlog" target="_blank">http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_log_config.html#customlog</a>
[2] Of course, a different log format may confuse log file analysers.
[3] <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_log_config.html#logformat" target="_blank">http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_log_config.html#logformat</a>

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