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news14

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Since: Aug 25, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 7:46 pm
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Hello all -

A client, with no warning whatsoever, recently decided to bring web dev
and maintenance "in-house". Just prior to this announcement, they asked
for and received a complete backup of the whole web site. They then
cancelled my ftp access, then they told me the news.

Up to this point, they have not asked for any of the "raw" files - i.e.
the .psd and .ai files with layers that I created to make gifs (for
headings, bullets, artwork, line art, banners, etc.) or raw photo scans
for the site.

My question is this: Who "owns" these files? Does this company have any
legal right to my raw files? Has anyone ever encountered this before?

Pls. reply with sage advice/experience to
news_AT_flyingsquirrels_DOT_com

Many thanks!

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Since: Jun 29, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:55 pm
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"FLYNSQRL" <news.TakeThisOut@_NOSPAM_flyingsquirrels.com> wrote in message
news:250820031646227765%news@_NOSPAM_flyingsquirrels.com...
 >
 > Up to this point, they have not asked for any of the "raw" files - i.e.
 > the .psd and .ai files with layers that I created to make gifs (for
 > headings, bullets, artwork, line art, banners, etc.) or raw photo scans
 > for the site.
 >
 > My question is this: Who "owns" these files? Does this company have any
 > legal right to my raw files? Has anyone ever encountered this before?
 >

If you are in the US, unless you had a contract stating that you were doing
"work for hire" then you own the copyright on anything you designed.

 > Pls. reply with sage advice/experience to
 > news_AT_flyingsquirrels_DOT_com

Post here, read here.

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Since: Jul 01, 2003
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:41 am
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FLYNSQRL <news DeleteThis @_NOSPAM_flyingsquirrels.com> wrote:

 > My question is this: Who "owns" these files?

You do.

 > Does this company have any
 > legal right to my raw files?

Nope.

 >Has anyone ever encountered this before?

Not me.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:43 am
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FLYNSQRL <news.RemoveThis@_NOSPAM_flyingsquirrels.com> wrote in
news:250820031646227765%news@_NOSPAM_flyingsquirrels.com:

 > Hello all -
 >
 > A client, with no warning whatsoever, recently decided to bring web dev
 > and maintenance "in-house". Just prior to this announcement, they asked
 > for and received a complete backup of the whole web site. They then
 > cancelled my ftp access, then they told me the news.
 >
 > Up to this point, they have not asked for any of the "raw" files - i.e.
 > the .psd and .ai files with layers that I created to make gifs (for
 > headings, bullets, artwork, line art, banners, etc.) or raw photo scans
 > for the site.
 >
 > My question is this: Who "owns" these files? Does this company have any
 > legal right to my raw files? Has anyone ever encountered this before?
 >
 > Pls. reply with sage advice/experience to
 > news_AT_flyingsquirrels_DOT_com
 >
 > Many thanks!
 >

Unless they have it in writing, you own them.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:15 am
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FLYNSQRL schrieb:
 > Up to this point, they have not asked for any of the "raw" files - i.e.
 > the .psd and .ai files with layers that I created to make gifs (for
 > headings, bullets, artwork, line art, banners, etc.) or raw photo scans
 > for the site.
 >
 > My question is this: Who "owns" these files? Does this company have any
 > legal right to my raw files?

That depends on your contract, and the laws in your country. Get
yourself some actual legal advice Smile.


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:48 am
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"Kingdom" <kingdomof.TakeThisOut@removehotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Unless they have it in writing, you own them.

UK must be different. A contract can be verbal.
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jake

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:17 am
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In message <250820031646227765%news@_NOSPAM_flyingsquirrels.com>,
FLYNSQRL <news DeleteThis @_NOSPAM_flyingsquirrels.com> writes
 >Hello all -
 >
 >A client, with no warning whatsoever, recently decided to bring web dev
 >and maintenance "in-house". Just prior to this announcement, they asked
 >for and received a complete backup of the whole web site. They then
 >cancelled my ftp access, then they told me the news.
 >
 >Up to this point, they have not asked for any of the "raw" files - i.e.
 >the .psd and .ai files with layers that I created to make gifs (for
 >headings, bullets, artwork, line art, banners, etc.) or raw photo scans
 >for the site.
 >
 >My question is this: Who "owns" these files? Does this company have any
 >legal right to my raw files? Has anyone ever encountered this before?
 >
 >Pls. reply with sage advice/experience to
 >news_AT_flyingsquirrels_DOT_com
 >
 >Many thanks!

Show your contract to a lawyer, if it's not absolutely clear.

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primetlc

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 12:55 pm
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"Charles Sweeney" <me.TakeThisOut@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
news:bie3o0$84v6k$1@ID-162618.news.uni-berlin.de...
 > "Kingdom" <kingdomof.TakeThisOut@removehotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:Xns93E2F15E1816kingdomofwizdom@194.117.133.134...
 >
  > > Unless they have it in writing, you own them.
 >
 > UK must be different. A contract can be verbal.

Be carefull.... Verbal contracts are only as good as the contractee's
collective memories.....I've done jobs based on a verbal contract before
today, only to fin at a later date that the client has a completely
different idea of what work I agreed to do, or how much they agreed to pay
me.....The problem is, once the work's done, how do you prove otherwise?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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