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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 8:02 pm
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You know you're making an impression when....

.....you start receiving threatening hate emails from people who don't
like what you say on your web site.

And I never thought it was that controversial!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 8:02 pm
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:02:03 GMT, Matt Probert
wrote:

 > You know you're making an impression when....
 >
 > ....you start receiving threatening hate emails from people who don't
 > like what you say on your web site.
 >
 > And I never thought it was that controversial!
 >
 > Matt

What exactly were they complaining about?

BTW, on your slang pages, you're missing "Sh*t Disturber", which is
Canadian slang for someone who ruins things for everybody else just for
the hell of it. Wink

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 8:02 pm
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In article ,
SP_bhuisman.TakeThisOut@greywyvern.com_AM says...
<snip>
 > BTW, on your slang pages, you're missing "Sh*t Disturber", which is
 > Canadian slang for someone who ruins things for everybody else just for
 > the hell of it. Wink

You don't know how long I've been waiting for an
opportunity to share the following ...
Sent to me by a good northern friend:

As a Canadian, you have to be extra vigilant. There are
a lot of impostors out there. If you suspect that
someone is falsely trying to pass themselves off as a
Canadian, make the following statement - and then
carefully note their reaction:

"Last night, I cashed my pogey and went to buy a mickey
of C.C. at the beer parlour, but my skidoo got stuck in
the muskeg on my way back to the duplex. I was trying
to deke out a deer, you see. Damn chinook, melted
everything.And then a Mountie snuck up behind me in a
ghost car and gave me an impaired. I was S.O.L.,
sitting there dressed only in my Stanfields and a toque
at the time. And the Mountie, he's all chippy and
everything, calling me a shit disturber" and what not.
What could I say, except, "Sorry, EH!"

If the person you are talking to nods sympathetically,
they're one of us. I if however, they stare at you with
blank incomprehension, they are not a real Canadian.
Report them to the authorities at once. CSIS or
theMounties, it's your choice.

The passage cited above contains no fewer than 19
different Canadianisms. In order, they are:

pogey: EI (Employment insurance). Money provided by the
government for not working.

mickey: A small bottle of booze (13 oz) (A Texas mickey,
on the other hand, is a ridiculously big bottle of
booze, which, despite the name, is still a Canadianism
through and through.)

C.C.: Canadian Club, a brand of rye. Not to be confused
with
hockeystick, "another kind of Canadian Club.

beer parlour: Like an ice cream parlour, but for
Canadians.

skidoo: Self-propelled decapitation unit for teenagers.

muskeg: Boggy swampland.

duplex: A single building divided in half with two sets
of inhabitants,each trying to pretend the other doesn't
exist while at the same time managing to drive each
other crazy; metaphor for Canada's french and english.

deke: Used as a verb, it means "to fool an opponent
through skilful misdirection."As a noun, it is used most
often in exclamatory constructions such as: "Whadda
deke!" Meaning, "My, what an impressive display of
physical dexterity employing misdirection and guile."

chinook: An unseasonably warm wind that comes over the
Rockies and onto the plains, melting snow banks in
Calgary but just missing Edmonton, much to the pleasure
of Calgarians.

Mountie: Canadian icon, strong of jaw, red of coat, pure
of heart. Always get their man! (See also Pepper spray,
uses of.)

snuck: To have sneaked; to move, past tense, in a sneaky
manner; non-restrictive extended semi-gerundial form of
"did sneak." (We think.)

ghost car: An unmarked police car, easily identifiable
by its inconspicuousness.

impaired: A charge of drunk driving. Used both as a
noun and as an adjective the alternative adjectival from
of "impaired" being "pissed to the gills").

S.O.L.: Shit outta luck; in an unfortunate predicament.

Stanfields: Men's underwear, especially Grandpa-style,
white cotton ones with a big elastic waistband and a
large superfluous flap in the front. And back!

toque: Canada's official National Head Apparel, with
about the same suave sex appeal as a pair of Stanfields.

chippy: Behaviour that is inappropriately aggressive;
constantly looking for a reason to find offence; from
"chip on one's shoulder." (See Western Canada)

shit disturber: (See Quebec) a troublemaker or
provocateur. According to Katherine Barber, editor in
Chief of the Canadian Oxford Dictionary, "shit
disturber" is a distinctly Canadian term. (Just
remember that Western Canada is chippy and Quebec is a
shit disturber, and you will do fine.) Sorry Eh!

Judy
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:27 pm
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Expressing undying admiration for ange, GreyWyvern wrote:
 > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:02:03 GMT, Matt Probert

 >
  >> You know you're making an impression when....
  >>
  >> ....you start receiving threatening hate emails from people who don't
  >> like what you say on your web site.
  >>
  >> And I never thought it was that controversial!
  >>
  >> Matt
 >
 > What exactly were they complaining about?
 >
 > BTW, on your slang pages, you're missing "Sh*t Disturber", which is
 > Canadian slang for someone who ruins things for everybody else just
 > for the hell of it. Wink

Canadian slang is great! My neighbor is from Toronto and it's like learning
a whole new language...

"I've got a whack of friends sitting on the chesterfield who messed up my
washroom and don't know f***-all. The pogeys ate all the potine and chips,
and didn't even bother to use serviettes. I don't have a looney to my name
to buy more, the hosers."

(She's learning, too. She loves the word "hankering".)

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:26 am
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Matt Probert wrote:
 > You know you're making an impression when....
 >
 > ....you start receiving threatening hate emails from people who don't
 > like what you say on your web site.

congratulations Matt. see you on the evening news ;o)

 > And I never thought it was that controversial!
 >

doesn't have to be generally controversial. look at the vitriol in this and
other tech groups on the subject of browser/OS/web server/news reader/mail
client/frames/tables/accessibility/.... subjects which the worlds
population at large are not even aware of never mind know that to some the
views reach the point of religious fervour.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:54 am
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William Tasso wrote:
 >
 > doesn't have to be generally controversial. look at the vitriol in this and
 > other tech groups on the subject of browser/OS/web server/news reader/mail
 > client/frames/tables/accessibility/.... subjects which the worlds
 > population at large are not even aware of never mind know that to some the
 > views reach the point of religious fervour.
 >

eff off!

Wink

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:30 am
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:25:14 -0400 GreyWyvern
broke off from drinking a cup of tea
at GreyWyvern.com to write:

 >On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:02:03 GMT, Matt Probert

 >
  >> You know you're making an impression when....
  >>
  >> ....you start receiving threatening hate emails from people who don't
  >> like what you say on your web site.
  >>
  >> And I never thought it was that controversial!
  >>
  >> Matt
 >
 >What exactly were they complaining about?

Same as you.

 >
 >BTW, on your slang pages, you're missing "Sh*t Disturber", which is
 >Canadian slang for someone who ruins things for everybody else just for
 >the hell of it. Wink

According to Jonathan Green, a shit-disturber is a malicious gossip,
someone who likes to tell tales.

But yes, over 11,000 slang terms and still there are thousands
missing.

Matt

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:57 am
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:30:58 GMT, Matt Probert
wrote:

 > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:25:14 -0400 GreyWyvern

 > at GreyWyvern.com to write:
 >
  >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:02:03 GMT, Matt Probert

  >>
   >>> You know you're making an impression when....
   >>>
   >>> ....you start receiving threatening hate emails from people who don't
   >>> like what you say on your web site.
   >>>
   >>> And I never thought it was that controversial!
   >>>
   >>> Matt
  >>
  >> What exactly were they complaining about?
 >
 > Same as you.

What?

  >> BTW, on your slang pages, you're missing "Sh*t Disturber", which is
  >> Canadian slang for someone who ruins things for everybody else just for
  >> the hell of it. Wink
 >
 > According to Jonathan Green, a shit-disturber is a malicious gossip,
 > someone who likes to tell tales.

I hear the term in casual conversation here often enough that I know
there's more to it than that Smile

 > But yes, over 11,000 slang terms and still there are thousands
 > missing.

Well, that's 11,000 more than I have in my encyclopaedia, I'll give you
that.

Grey

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:38 pm
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TechnoHippie wrote in message

 > You don't know how long I've been waiting for an
 > opportunity to share the following ...
 > Sent to me by a good northern friend:
 >
 > As a Canadian, you have to be extra vigilant.

<snip funny stuff>

 > Judy

Hey Judy - I think you should put the credit where the credit is due.
This is of course an excerpt from Will's famous book, How to be a
Canadian:
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:19 pm
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TechnoHippie wrote in




 > <snip>
  >> BTW, on your slang pages, you're missing "Sh*t Disturber", which is
  >> Canadian slang for someone who ruins things for everybody else just
  >> for the hell of it. Wink
 >
 > You don't know how long I've been waiting for an
 > opportunity to share the following ...
 > Sent to me by a good northern friend:
 >
 > As a Canadian, you have to be extra vigilant. There are
 > a lot of impostors out there. If you suspect that
 > someone is falsely trying to pass themselves off as a
 > Canadian, make the following statement - and then
 > carefully note their reaction:
 >
 > "Last night, I cashed my pogey and went to buy a mickey
 > of C.C. at the beer parlour, but my skidoo got stuck in
 > the muskeg on my way back to the duplex. I was trying
 > to deke out a deer, you see. Damn chinook, melted
 > everything.And then a Mountie snuck up behind me in a
 > ghost car and gave me an impaired. I was S.O.L.,
 > sitting there dressed only in my Stanfields and a toque
 > at the time. And the Mountie, he's all chippy and
 > everything, calling me a shit disturber" and what not.
 > What could I say, except, "Sorry, EH!"
 >
 > If the person you are talking to nods sympathetically,
 > they're one of us. I if however, they stare at you with
 > blank incomprehension, they are not a real Canadian.
 > Report them to the authorities at once. CSIS or
 > theMounties, it's your choice.
 >
 > The passage cited above contains no fewer than 19
 > different Canadianisms. In order, they are:
 >
 > pogey: EI (Employment insurance). Money provided by the
 > government for not working.
 >
 > mickey: A small bottle of booze (13 oz) (A Texas mickey,
 > on the other hand, is a ridiculously big bottle of
 > booze, which, despite the name, is still a Canadianism
 > through and through.)
 >
 > C.C.: Canadian Club, a brand of rye. Not to be confused
 > with
 > hockeystick, "another kind of Canadian Club.
 >
 > beer parlour: Like an ice cream parlour, but for
 > Canadians.
 >
 > skidoo: Self-propelled decapitation unit for teenagers.
 >
 > muskeg: Boggy swampland.
 >
 > duplex: A single building divided in half with two sets
 > of inhabitants,each trying to pretend the other doesn't
 > exist while at the same time managing to drive each
 > other crazy; metaphor for Canada's french and english.
 >
 > deke: Used as a verb, it means "to fool an opponent
 > through skilful misdirection."As a noun, it is used most
 > often in exclamatory constructions such as: "Whadda
 > deke!" Meaning, "My, what an impressive display of
 > physical dexterity employing misdirection and guile."
 >
 > chinook: An unseasonably warm wind that comes over the
 > Rockies and onto the plains, melting snow banks in
 > Calgary but just missing Edmonton, much to the pleasure
 > of Calgarians.
 >
 > Mountie: Canadian icon, strong of jaw, red of coat, pure
 > of heart. Always get their man! (See also Pepper spray,
 > uses of.)
 >
 > snuck: To have sneaked; to move, past tense, in a sneaky
 > manner; non-restrictive extended semi-gerundial form of
 > "did sneak." (We think.)
 >
 > ghost car: An unmarked police car, easily identifiable
 > by its inconspicuousness.
 >
 > impaired: A charge of drunk driving. Used both as a
 > noun and as an adjective the alternative adjectival from
 > of "impaired" being "pissed to the gills").
 >
 > S.O.L.: Shit outta luck; in an unfortunate predicament.
 >
 > Stanfields: Men's underwear, especially Grandpa-style,
 > white cotton ones with a big elastic waistband and a
 > large superfluous flap in the front. And back!
 >
 > toque: Canada's official National Head Apparel, with
 > about the same suave sex appeal as a pair of Stanfields.
 >
 > chippy: Behaviour that is inappropriately aggressive;
 > constantly looking for a reason to find offence; from
 > "chip on one's shoulder." (See Western Canada)
 >
 > shit disturber: (See Quebec) a troublemaker or
 > provocateur. According to Katherine Barber, editor in
 > Chief of the Canadian Oxford Dictionary, "shit
 > disturber" is a distinctly Canadian term. (Just
 > remember that Western Canada is chippy and Quebec is a
 > shit disturber, and you will do fine.) Sorry Eh!

Whoa... Okay, I'm going to sound like a _TOTAL_ backwoods, lumberjack
Canadian here, but are all of those above uniquely Canadianisms ? I
mean, I was reading through them and thinking to myself "What's so
special about this list, it's all just every-day words..."

I think I'll go poke a hole through my toque now and pull it over my
face to I can drink a beer, a mickey and eat some poutine without having
to look at the rest of the world - from my chesterfield, of course!

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:20 pm
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 13:19:59 GMT, Marc Bissonnette
wrote:



 >
  >> S.O.L.: Shit outta luck; in an unfortunate predicament.
 >
 >Whoa... Okay, I'm going to sound like a _TOTAL_ backwoods, lumberjack
 >Canadian here, but are all of those above uniquely Canadianisms ? I
 >mean, I was reading through them and thinking to myself "What's so
 >special about this list, it's all just every-day words..."

Most of them were uniquely Candaianisms, but SOL certainly isn't.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:20 pm
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:57:29 -0400 GreyWyvern
broke off from drinking a cup of tea
at GreyWyvern.com to write:

 >On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 06:30:58 GMT, Matt Probert

 >
  >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:25:14 -0400 GreyWyvern

  >> at GreyWyvern.com to write:
  >>
   >>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:02:03 GMT, Matt Probert

   >>>
   >>>> You know you're making an impression when....
   >>>>
   >>>> ....you start receiving threatening hate emails from people who don't
   >>>> like what you say on your web site.
   >>>>
   >>>> And I never thought it was that controversial!
   >>>>
   >>>> Matt
   >>>
   >>> What exactly were they complaining about?
  >>
  >> Same as you.
 >
 >What?

My interpretation of the recent conflict in Iraq and the cold war.

 >
   >>> BTW, on your slang pages, you're missing "Sh*t Disturber", which is
   >>> Canadian slang for someone who ruins things for everybody else just for
   >>> the hell of it. Wink
  >>
  >> According to Jonathan Green, a shit-disturber is a malicious gossip,
  >> someone who likes to tell tales.
 >
 >I hear the term in casual conversation here often enough that I know
 >there's more to it than that Smile

Okay, that's fair enough - though I'd need corroboration before
including it. Slang varies from town to town even, in Doncaster they
uniquely refer to friends as "duck", which causes much confusion when
people from Doncaster come to Basingstoke where the term "ducky" means
a homosexual or effeminate male, and as such to be called "duck" can
cause a swift right hook to be released....


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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:20 pm
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:20:45 GMT, Matt Probert
wrote:

   >>>>> You know you're making an impression when....
   >>>>>
   >>>>> ....you start receiving threatening hate emails from people who don't
   >>>>> like what you say on your web site.
   >>>>>
   >>>>> And I never thought it was that controversial!
   >>>>>
   >>>>> Matt
   >>>>
   >>>> What exactly were they complaining about?
   >>>
   >>> Same as you.
  >>
  >> What?
 >
 > My interpretation of the recent conflict in Iraq and the cold war.

I have no problem with your site whatsoever. For nowhere on it do you
state that all information within is unbiased and without editorial
comment. Everyone has a bias, you and I are no exceptions.
It's only when you come here, to a public forum, and try to pass off
biased opinions as unquestionable fact that I can't just sit back and say
nothing. Other than that, I'm a pretty easy-going guy, and have nothing
against you.

FWIW, I mostly agree with your take on the Cold War. I don't see what's
so controversial about it. Then again, I'm not American.

   >>>> BTW, on your slang pages, you're missing "Sh*t Disturber", which is
   >>>> Canadian slang for someone who ruins things for everybody else just
   >>>> for
   >>>> the hell of it. Wink
   >>>
   >>> According to Jonathan Green, a shit-disturber is a malicious gossip,
   >>> someone who likes to tell tales.
  >>
  >> I hear the term in casual conversation here often enough that I know
  >> there's more to it than that Smile
 >
 > Okay, that's fair enough - though I'd need corroboration before
 > including it. Slang varies from town to town even, in Doncaster they
 > uniquely refer to friends as "duck", which causes much confusion when
 > people from Doncaster come to Basingstoke where the term "ducky" means
 > a homosexual or effeminate male, and as such to be called "duck" can
 > cause a swift right hook to be released....

Okay. Marc B.? Can you corroborate? Wink

Grey

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:25 pm
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 13:19:59 GMT Marc Bissonnette
broke off from drinking a cup of tea at
Bell Sympatico to write:

 >
 >Whoa... Okay, I'm going to sound like a _TOTAL_ backwoods, lumberjack
 >Canadian here, but are all of those above uniquely Canadianisms ? I
 >mean, I was reading through them and thinking to myself "What's so
 >special about this list, it's all just every-day words..."
 >
 >I think I'll go poke a hole through my toque now and pull it over my
 >face to I can drink a beer, a mickey and eat some poutine without having
 >to look at the rest of the world - from my chesterfield, of course!

Snuck is also used in the same context in Britain. So it's not
uniquely Canadian. Not being a linguist I can't say for the others,
though beer parlour is the sort of phrase a Brit or Australian would
also use.

Matt

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:07 pm
Post subject: Re: You know you're making an impression when.... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <181a24a8.0309221138.66157b01
@posting.google.com>, sylviestone.RemoveThis@canada.com says...

 >
  > > You don't know how long I've been waiting for an
  > > opportunity to share the following ...
  > > Sent to me by a good northern friend:
  > >
  > > As a Canadian, you have to be extra vigilant.
 >
 > <snip funny stuff>
 >
  > > Judy
 >
 > Hey Judy - I think you should put the credit where the credit is due.
 > This is of course an excerpt from Will's famous book, How to be a
 > Canadian:
<font color=purple> > <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://willferguson.ca/books/books.html</font" target="_blank">http://willferguson.ca/books/books.html</font</a>>
 >
 > Syl.
 >

Thanks for that information! I had no idea where it
originated ... just something a friend sent me.

Judy
 >> Stay informed about: You know you're making an impression when.... 
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