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sam

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:15 pm
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It was a tremendous flop......It produced a file of immense
sizes......Totally non-bandwidth freindly......

I did my first test to see how feasible the whole idea would be before
firing up visual basic to automate it, but alas, I fell at the first
hurdle......

My idea was to 'hard-code' the image into the HTML rather than have it as an
imported item.....However, the resulting 50x50 pixel ized image produced a
file size of 195kb......Damn and damnation.....

So here was my idea......

Take a table......Split it up into say 50 cells by 50 cells.....make each of
these cells 1 pixel by 1 pixel and assign a unique background colour to each
of them......

Admittedly, this does create an image within a webpage without the need for
an image file, as this link proves
http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm
But the resulting HTML file is ridiculously huge, and as the image
proportions get bigger, the file size will increase exponentially........

If it had been a viable solution, I had planned a simple application that
would import an image, resize it to the required output dimensions, then
scan it pixel by pixel, and assign the nearest web-safe pallete colour to
that pixel as the background in the corresponding table cell......It would
then output a simple text window containing the resulting code which could
be copied and pasted into a webpage......

Unfortunately, I hadn't anticipated the sheer volume of coding required to
make a 50x50 table, let alone a bigger one.....

Oh well.....Fame will have to wait for a better idea I guess......

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:24 pm
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"Fatwa Sam" <sam DeleteThis @samandjanet.fswolrd.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > It was a tremendous flop......It produced a file of immense
 > sizes......Totally non-bandwidth freindly......
 >
 > I did my first test to see how feasible the whole idea would be before
 > firing up visual basic to automate it, but alas, I fell at the first
 > hurdle......
 >
 > My idea was to 'hard-code' the image into the HTML rather than have it as
an
 > imported item.....However, the resulting 50x50 pixel ized image produced a
 > file size of 195kb......Damn and damnation.....
 >
 > So here was my idea......
 >
 > Take a table......Split it up into say 50 cells by 50 cells.....make each
of
 > these cells 1 pixel by 1 pixel and assign a unique background colour to
each
 > of them......
 >
 > Admittedly, this does create an image within a webpage without the need
for
 > an image file, as this link proves
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font</a>>
 > But the resulting HTML file is ridiculously huge, and as the image
 > proportions get bigger, the file size will increase exponentially........
 >
 > If it had been a viable solution, I had planned a simple application that
 > would import an image, resize it to the required output dimensions, then
 > scan it pixel by pixel, and assign the nearest web-safe pallete colour to
 > that pixel as the background in the corresponding table cell......It would
 > then output a simple text window containing the resulting code which could
 > be copied and pasted into a webpage......
 >
 > Unfortunately, I hadn't anticipated the sheer volume of coding required to
 > make a 50x50 table, let alone a bigger one.....
 >
 > Oh well.....Fame will have to wait for a better idea I guess......

Great idea all the same.

I was thinking (loosely) along the same lines about PHPs image functions
(imagesetpixel() draws a pixel) which to my mind are very under-used.

The memory thing will get better with time, look how memory and
communications have advanced over the past few years.

Anyway, you're already famous, you've been on telly!
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:27 pm
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Fatwa Sam wrote:

 > Admittedly, this does create an image within a webpage without the need for
 > an image file, as this link proves
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font</a>>

Well I'm sure it does, but unfortunately the server died on me during my
visit - started off okay, but stopped and an attempt to reload got me a
504 error! (multiple attempts later and still no joy)

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:30 pm
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"Dylan Parry" <dylan RemoveThis @webpageworkshop.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Well I'm sure it does, but unfortunately the server died on me during my
 > visit - started off okay, but stopped and an attempt to reload got me a
 > 504 error! (multiple attempts later and still no joy)

I got it fine, blueyonder cable.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:31 pm
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Charles Sweeney wrote:

  >> Well I'm sure it does, but unfortunately the server died on me during my
  >> visit - started off okay, but stopped and an attempt to reload got me a
  >> 504 error! (multiple attempts later and still no joy)
 >
 > I got it fine, blueyonder cable.

It's odd because a Ping and a Traceroute both get the server fine, but it
just won't load the page here (Freeserve, ack)

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sam

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:33 pm
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"Charles Sweeney" <me.RemoveThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 > "Fatwa Sam" <sam.RemoveThis@samandjanet.fswolrd.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:bdv77a$2ft$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
  > > It was a tremendous flop......It produced a file of immense
  > > sizes......Totally non-bandwidth freindly......
  > >
  > > I did my first test to see how feasible the whole idea would be before
  > > firing up visual basic to automate it, but alas, I fell at the first
  > > hurdle......
  > >
  > > My idea was to 'hard-code' the image into the HTML rather than have it
as
 > an
  > > imported item.....However, the resulting 50x50 pixel ized image produced
a
  > > file size of 195kb......Damn and damnation.....
  > >
  > > So here was my idea......
  > >
  > > Take a table......Split it up into say 50 cells by 50 cells.....make
each
 > of
  > > these cells 1 pixel by 1 pixel and assign a unique background colour to
 > each
  > > of them......
  > >
  > > Admittedly, this does create an image within a webpage without the need
 > for
  > > an image file, as this link proves
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font</a>>
  > > But the resulting HTML file is ridiculously huge, and as the image
  > > proportions get bigger, the file size will increase
exponentially........
  > >
  > > If it had been a viable solution, I had planned a simple application
that
  > > would import an image, resize it to the required output dimensions, then
  > > scan it pixel by pixel, and assign the nearest web-safe pallete colour
to
  > > that pixel as the background in the corresponding table cell......It
would
  > > then output a simple text window containing the resulting code which
could
  > > be copied and pasted into a webpage......
  > >
  > > Unfortunately, I hadn't anticipated the sheer volume of coding required
to
  > > make a 50x50 table, let alone a bigger one.....
  > >
  > > Oh well.....Fame will have to wait for a better idea I guess......
 >
 > Great idea all the same.
 >
 > I was thinking (loosely) along the same lines about PHPs image functions
 > (imagesetpixel() draws a pixel) which to my mind are very under-used.
 >
 > The memory thing will get better with time, look how memory and
 > communications have advanced over the past few years.
 >
 > Anyway, you're already famous, you've been on telly!

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:37 pm
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"Dylan Parry" <dylan.RemoveThis@webpageworkshop.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Fatwa Sam wrote:
 >
  > > Admittedly, this does create an image within a webpage without the need
for
  > > an image file, as this link proves
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font</a>>
 >
 > Well I'm sure it does, but unfortunately the server died on me during my
 > visit - started off okay, but stopped and an attempt to reload got me a
 > 504 error! (multiple attempts later and still no joy)

Weird....I wonder what that's all about?.....I'm acessing it just fine from
here,.....I'm connected to it by my browser and by FTP too, and all seems
fine.....

I'll check my other sites hosted with Redstation to see if any of them are
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:38 pm
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"Dylan Parry" <dylan RemoveThis @webpageworkshop.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Charles Sweeney wrote:
 >
   > >> Well I'm sure it does, but unfortunately the server died on me during
my
   > >> visit - started off okay, but stopped and an attempt to reload got me a
   > >> 504 error! (multiple attempts later and still no joy)
  > >
  > > I got it fine, blueyonder cable.
 >
 > It's odd because a Ping and a Traceroute both get the server fine, but it
 > just won't load the page here (Freeserve, ack)

I'm on FS too.....Perhaps they should rename it "Fraudserve" as it rarely
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:38 pm
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Fatwa Sam wrote:

 > I'm on FS too.....Perhaps they should rename it "Fraudserve" as it
 > rarely delivers what they promise of it.......

Well they can do what they like with the service (sticking it up their
overpaid corporate arses comes to mind) because in 8 days time I move
house and then I'm getting ADSL.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:41 pm
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"Fatwa Sam" <sam DeleteThis @samandjanet.fswolrd.co.uk> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Dylan Parry" <dylan DeleteThis @webpageworkshop.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:pan.2003.07.02.18.27.43.549664@webpageworkshop.co.uk...
  > > Fatwa Sam wrote:
  > >
   > > > Admittedly, this does create an image within a webpage without the
need
 > for
   > > > an image file, as this link proves
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Well I'm sure it does, but unfortunately the server died on me during my
  > > visit - started off okay, but stopped and an attempt to reload got me a
  > > 504 error! (multiple attempts later and still no joy)
 >
 > Weird....I wonder what that's all about?.....I'm acessing it just fine
from
 > here,.....I'm connected to it by my browser and by FTP too, and all seems
 > fine.....
 >
 > I'll check my other sites hosted with Redstation to see if any of them are
 > encountering difficulties......

Hmmmm.....I see what you mean.....I've just got a 504 myself......Then two
refreshes later, it worked again......

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:55 pm
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"Fatwa Sam" <sam.DeleteThis@samandjanet.fswolrd.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hmmmm.....I see what you mean.....I've just got a 504 myself......Then two
 > refreshes later, it worked again......
 >
 > Damn you freeserve.......

Don't think it's Freeserve. I'm getting the error now (DNS).

I think you just brought down your host Sam!!!
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:03 pm
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"Charles Sweeney" <me.RemoveThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 > "Fatwa Sam" <sam.RemoveThis@samandjanet.fswolrd.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:bdv8o2$m47$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
 >
  > > Hmmmm.....I see what you mean.....I've just got a 504 myself......Then
two
  > > refreshes later, it worked again......
  > >
  > > Damn you freeserve.......
 >
 > Don't think it's Freeserve. I'm getting the error now (DNS).
 >
 > I think you just brought down your host Sam!!!

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:10 pm
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Fatwa Sam wrote:
 > "Charles Sweeney" <me.TakeThisOut@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
 > news:bdv9qd$10ij2t$1@ID-162618.news.dfncis.de...
  >> "Fatwa Sam" <sam.TakeThisOut@samandjanet.fswolrd.co.uk> wrote in message
  >> news:bdv8o2$m47$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
  >>
   >>> Hmmmm.....I see what you mean.....I've just got a 504
   >>> myself......Then two refreshes later, it worked again......
   >>>
   >>> Damn you freeserve.......
  >>
  >> Don't think it's Freeserve. I'm getting the error now (DNS).
  >>
  >> I think you just brought down your host Sam!!!
 >
 > Again?...LOL.....

it's called the slashdot effect.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:49 pm
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Fatwa Sam wrote:

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm</font</a>>

Sam sent me the file by email, and it is now available at:
<URL:http://www.dylanparry.com/stuff/sam.html>

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:49 pm
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Dylan Parry wrote:
 > Fatwa Sam wrote:
 >
 >
  >>http://www.fatwasam.com/ideas/test.htm
 >
 >
 > Sam sent me the file by email, and it is now available at:
 > <URL:http://www.dylanparry.com/stuff/sam.html>

Well, that's one way of stopping someone from right clicking and trying
to save your image.... kind of.


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