Any good reads on Affiliate Marketing?

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:49:43 GMT, CraigSeborne <CraigSBN DeleteThis @yahoo.net>
wrote:

>My buddy is convinced he can make a $million a day in affiliate marketing (maybe
>a slight exaggeration on my part)

Some of mine are convinced that UFOs land at Stonehenge. I'll keep you
posted if any show up, you be sure to tell us when he's made his
$million.
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"CraigSeborne" <CraigSBN.RemoveThis@yahoo.net> wrote in message
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> My buddy is convinced he can make a $million a day in affiliate marketing
> (maybe
> a slight exaggeration on my part)
>
> His enthusiasm piqued my interest and I started checking around. Upon
> first
> look, it appears the only money being made is by people selling books and
> courses to teach you how to do affiliate marketing.
>
> He is slightly pragmatic, saying that he wants to set up a hundred sites,
> fed
> off of some software service. He said he expects to make only about $10 or
> $12
> per day from clicks, multiplied times the number of sites he gets up and
> running.
>
> Can anyone point me to any books or web sites that offer some truthful
> insight
> into the prospects and process of affiliate marketing?
>
>
> Thanks!
> CS

I can't believe how cynical some of the guys are
in this group at times. Don't get me wrong it isn't
just plain sailing but you can make a lot of money
from affiliate marketing and AdSense if you know what
you are doing and put the time and effort in to it.
Try lurking at this forum for a couple of weeks
www . a4uforum . co.uk
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Looks like most of the search results when I first started researching his big
scheme to get rich.

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:20:31 GMT, www RemoveThis @probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert)
wrote:

>I can advise you, but first you need to pay me $1 million
>
>Matt
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T.J. wrote:
> "CraigSeborne" <CraigSBN.DeleteThis@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:270452thiu7isisk1vsnmlj0hcg01ntgm0@4ax.com...
>
>>My buddy is convinced he can make a $million a day in affiliate marketing
>>(maybe
>>a slight exaggeration on my part)
>>
>>His enthusiasm piqued my interest and I started checking around. Upon
>>first
>>look, it appears the only money being made is by people selling books and
>>courses to teach you how to do affiliate marketing.
>>
>>He is slightly pragmatic, saying that he wants to set up a hundred sites,
>>fed
>>off of some software service. He said he expects to make only about $10 or
>>$12
>>per day from clicks, multiplied times the number of sites he gets up and
>>running.
>>
>>Can anyone point me to any books or web sites that offer some truthful
>>insight
>>into the prospects and process of affiliate marketing?
>>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>CS
>
>
> I can't believe how cynical some of the guys are
> in this group at times. Don't get me wrong it isn't
> just plain sailing but you can make a lot of money
> from affiliate marketing and AdSense if you know what
> you are doing and put the time and effort in to it.
> Try lurking at this forum for a couple of weeks
> www . a4uforum . co.uk
>
>

Well, I understand the "rum". And I understand the "ufo". But what's the "ar"
for? All For Drunk Flying Saucers?

Seriously - I looked through the site. I saw a lot of general chit-chat. I saw
some people complaining about one thing or the other. But I didn't see anyone
claiming they were making a decent living on their website with nothing else
(i.e. no other product or services).

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"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex.TakeThisOut@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> T.J. wrote:
>> "CraigSeborne" <CraigSBN.TakeThisOut@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:270452thiu7isisk1vsnmlj0hcg01ntgm0@4ax.com...
>>
>>>My buddy is convinced he can make a $million a day in affiliate marketing
>>>(maybe
>>>a slight exaggeration on my part)
>>>
>>>His enthusiasm piqued my interest and I started checking around. Upon
>>>first
>>>look, it appears the only money being made is by people selling books and
>>>courses to teach you how to do affiliate marketing.
>>>
>>>He is slightly pragmatic, saying that he wants to set up a hundred sites,
>>>fed
>>>off of some software service. He said he expects to make only about $10
>>>or $12
>>>per day from clicks, multiplied times the number of sites he gets up and
>>>running.
>>>
>>>Can anyone point me to any books or web sites that offer some truthful
>>>insight
>>>into the prospects and process of affiliate marketing?
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>CS
>>
>>
>> I can't believe how cynical some of the guys are
>> in this group at times. Don't get me wrong it isn't
>> just plain sailing but you can make a lot of money
>> from affiliate marketing and AdSense if you know what
>> you are doing and put the time and effort in to it.
>> Try lurking at this forum for a couple of weeks
>> www . a4uforum . co.uk
>>
>>
>
> Well, I understand the "rum". And I understand the "ufo". But what's the
> "ar" for? All For Drunk Flying Saucers?
>
> Seriously - I looked through the site. I saw a lot of general chit-chat.
> I saw some people complaining about one thing or the other. But I didn't
> see anyone claiming they were making a decent living on their website with
> nothing else (i.e. no other product or services).
>

As you know, you can't get a true idea of a newsgroup
or a forum just by dropping in for an hour. The OP needs
to lurk there for at least a week to get an idea of things.

As for people not claiming to be making a decent living,
I tend to think the people who talk less are the ones who earn
more.

One of the secrets about affiliate marketing is exploiting a niche.
You really think any one with any sense is going to go spouting
off about how well they are doing on a particular keyword or product?

I agree with your part about having other products or services on
the site though, it isn't just a case of throw up a 100 sites and just
sit back and hope for the money to start coming in.
You tend to get out of it what you put in, but the rewards are there
for those who are serious about it, and it is a far easier way to make
a good living than a lot of other jobs.
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T.J. wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex.DeleteThis@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:gbudnQA_7fOmRs_ZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>T.J. wrote:
>>
>>>"CraigSeborne" <CraigSBN.DeleteThis@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>>>news:270452thiu7isisk1vsnmlj0hcg01ntgm0@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My buddy is convinced he can make a $million a day in affiliate marketing
>>>>(maybe
>>>>a slight exaggeration on my part)
>>>>
>>>>His enthusiasm piqued my interest and I started checking around. Upon
>>>>first
>>>>look, it appears the only money being made is by people selling books and
>>>>courses to teach you how to do affiliate marketing.
>>>>
>>>>He is slightly pragmatic, saying that he wants to set up a hundred sites,
>>>>fed
>>>>off of some software service. He said he expects to make only about $10
>>>>or $12
>>>>per day from clicks, multiplied times the number of sites he gets up and
>>>>running.
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone point me to any books or web sites that offer some truthful
>>>>insight
>>>>into the prospects and process of affiliate marketing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>CS
>>>
>>>
>>>I can't believe how cynical some of the guys are
>>>in this group at times. Don't get me wrong it isn't
>>>just plain sailing but you can make a lot of money
>>>from affiliate marketing and AdSense if you know what
>>>you are doing and put the time and effort in to it.
>>>Try lurking at this forum for a couple of weeks
>>>www . a4uforum . co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Well, I understand the "rum". And I understand the "ufo". But what's the
>>"ar" for? All For Drunk Flying Saucers?
>>
>>Seriously - I looked through the site. I saw a lot of general chit-chat.
>>I saw some people complaining about one thing or the other. But I didn't
>>see anyone claiming they were making a decent living on their website with
>>nothing else (i.e. no other product or services).
>>
>
>
> As you know, you can't get a true idea of a newsgroup
> or a forum just by dropping in for an hour. The OP needs
> to lurk there for at least a week to get an idea of things.
>
> As for people not claiming to be making a decent living,
> I tend to think the people who talk less are the ones who earn
> more.
>
> One of the secrets about affiliate marketing is exploiting a niche.
> You really think any one with any sense is going to go spouting
> off about how well they are doing on a particular keyword or product?
>
> I agree with your part about having other products or services on
> the site though, it isn't just a case of throw up a 100 sites and just
> sit back and hope for the money to start coming in.
> You tend to get out of it what you put in, but the rewards are there
> for those who are serious about it, and it is a far easier way to make
> a good living than a lot of other jobs.
>
>

Actually, I've found just the opposite - not from personal experience, but from
a lot of people who have websites.

A website is a very difficult way to make a living. It works best as a part of
an overall marketing plan. By itself it is almost always a losing proposition.

And a website requires regular maintenance to keep its effectiveness. You can't
just "post and forget'. That requires time and possibly money if you don't have
the necessary skills yourself.

So - how many people do you *personally know* who are making a "good living" -
as defined by at least the average income for that area - from just having a
website? And I'm not talking about people who claim they are doing it on a
discussion board.

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"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex.TakeThisOut@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> T.J. wrote:
>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex.TakeThisOut@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:gbudnQA_7fOmRs_ZnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>T.J. wrote:
>>>
>>>>"CraigSeborne" <CraigSBN.TakeThisOut@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:270452thiu7isisk1vsnmlj0hcg01ntgm0@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My buddy is convinced he can make a $million a day in affiliate
>>>>>marketing (maybe
>>>>>a slight exaggeration on my part)
>>>>>
>>>>>His enthusiasm piqued my interest and I started checking around. Upon
>>>>>first
>>>>>look, it appears the only money being made is by people selling books
>>>>>and
>>>>>courses to teach you how to do affiliate marketing.
>>>>>
>>>>>He is slightly pragmatic, saying that he wants to set up a hundred
>>>>>sites, fed
>>>>>off of some software service. He said he expects to make only about $10
>>>>>or $12
>>>>>per day from clicks, multiplied times the number of sites he gets up
>>>>>and
>>>>>running.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can anyone point me to any books or web sites that offer some truthful
>>>>>insight
>>>>>into the prospects and process of affiliate marketing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>CS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I can't believe how cynical some of the guys are
>>>>in this group at times. Don't get me wrong it isn't
>>>>just plain sailing but you can make a lot of money
>>>>from affiliate marketing and AdSense if you know what
>>>>you are doing and put the time and effort in to it.
>>>>Try lurking at this forum for a couple of weeks
>>>>www . a4uforum . co.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Well, I understand the "rum". And I understand the "ufo". But what's
>>>the "ar" for? All For Drunk Flying Saucers?
>>>
>>>Seriously - I looked through the site. I saw a lot of general chit-chat.
>>>I saw some people complaining about one thing or the other. But I didn't
>>>see anyone claiming they were making a decent living on their website
>>>with nothing else (i.e. no other product or services).
>>>
>>
>>
>> As you know, you can't get a true idea of a newsgroup
>> or a forum just by dropping in for an hour. The OP needs
>> to lurk there for at least a week to get an idea of things.
>>
>> As for people not claiming to be making a decent living,
>> I tend to think the people who talk less are the ones who earn
>> more.
>>
>> One of the secrets about affiliate marketing is exploiting a niche.
>> You really think any one with any sense is going to go spouting
>> off about how well they are doing on a particular keyword or product?
>>
>> I agree with your part about having other products or services on
>> the site though, it isn't just a case of throw up a 100 sites and just
>> sit back and hope for the money to start coming in.
>> You tend to get out of it what you put in, but the rewards are there
>> for those who are serious about it, and it is a far easier way to make
>> a good living than a lot of other jobs.
>>
>>
>
> Actually, I've found just the opposite - not from personal experience, but
> from a lot of people who have websites.
>
> A website is a very difficult way to make a living. It works best as a
> part of an overall marketing plan. By itself it is almost always a losing
> proposition.
>
> And a website requires regular maintenance to keep its effectiveness. You
> can't just "post and forget'. That requires time and possibly money if
> you don't have the necessary skills yourself.
>

Like I have said a couple of times, you get out of it what you
put in. I gave up *proper work* about 18 months ago, and now
do affiliate marketing full time. I probably work as many hours now
than I did when I was working, but can do the hours any time I
like (I tend to do more between 20:00 an midnight than any
other time). I also still see it as a hobby and the more I do the
easier it gets.

> So - how many people do you *personally know* who are making a "good
> living" - as defined by at least the average income for that area - from
> just having a website? And I'm not talking about people who claim they
> are doing it on a discussion board.
>

None, and the longer it stays that way the better.
Affiliate marketing is still a very young business and as far
as I am concerned the less people doing it the better.
Fortunately, there are a lot of people like the OP's friend,
they will probably set up their hundred sites, earn nothing,
get disulusioned and get out.
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I think I let some of the wind out of my friend's sails and he can distinguish
between fact and fiction. I suggested a single content driven site, but he still
thinks many sites are a better road to riches. I think now he will be less
trusting of books and other money makers.


I am now looking for suggestions on building a single site like I suggested to
him.

Which would be better?
A scratch-built site or a customizable template site?

www.Interactivetools.com has a software called Article Manager ($299) that looks
like it does a good job. Supposedly www.askthebuilder.com uses it and brings in
really good money. I know tools won't replace content quality, but I wonder what
road is better in the long run? I looked at the interface and it not difficult
to use, but it looks like it might be cumbersome to get the "look" you want.

Any other tool like the above that are cheaper, or better, or easier, or more
efficient, or ...........>

I like being able to totally customize the site, but the less time spent on HTML
means more time for content and promotion. Yet I don't want a cookie cutter
either.

Please jump in and voice your opinions and thanks for the links on the earlier
thread.
CS
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