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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:53 am
Post subject: flash v HTML
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hi y'all
anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net magazine.
Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:10 pm
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nam wrote:
> anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net
> magazine. Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
I missed that article, but both have their places.
Flash is great for animations, games and the like.
HTML is great for conveying information.
Flash isn't very good for converying information, its much harder to parse,
doesn't degrade gracefully, is far less searchable, doesn't work too well
on mobile devices, isn't printer friendly, etc.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:48 pm
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"David Dorward" <dorward.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> skrev i melding
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> nam wrote:
> > anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net
> > magazine. Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
>
> I missed that article, but both have their places.
>
> Flash is great for animations, games and the like.
> HTML is great for conveying information.
>
> Flash isn't very good for converying information, its much harder to
parse,
> doesn't degrade gracefully, is far less searchable, doesn't work too well
> on mobile devices, isn't printer friendly, etc.
Kinda reminds me of this little tidbit I found on "Computer Stupidities":
A user once wrote in to demand that we (an ISP) switch servers from a
SparcStation costing as much as a small house to a "superior" $5000 Win 95
machine, or he and all his friends would quit. His letter closed with the
line, "Don't fight me on this. I never lose." He lost.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_misc.shtml" target="_blank">http://rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_misc.shtml</a>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:52 pm
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"nam" <nams.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net
> magazine. Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
Flash is good for coding applications and vector illustrations.
HTML is good for everything else.
Flash is primarily used by people that can't do proper HTML.
Flash can be used well, but like anything, it's often not.
BTW, ".Net" is a trademark of Microsoft for their latest internet-enabled
software suite.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:31 pm
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"nam" <nams.DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> hi y'all
>
> anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net
magazine.
> Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
Obviously as cluless as you are.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 5:33 pm
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"Charles Sweeney" <me.TakeThisOut@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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> "nam" <nams.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:yyl%a.7857$Z52.5708@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > hi y'all
> >
> > anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net
> magazine.
> > Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
>
> Obviously as cluless as you are.
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> Charles Sweeney
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>
Ouch, did I miss something here?
;0)
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 5:49 pm
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>Flash is good for coding applications and vector illustrations.
>HTML is good for everything else.
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>Flash is primarily used by people that can't do proper HTML.
>Flash can be used well, but like anything, it's often not.
above is bs. Flash has Actionscript, which is far more complex than HTML.
ifcourse you dont even need to know HTML to make a web site, just use
frontpage.
actionscript resembles javascipt, C++, and Java, not HTML which is just tags
which a 5 year old can learn.
all technologies can be misused, as well as Java applets, which are gone from
the
net replaced by Flash games.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 5:57 pm
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"Farlo" <hall.j.m DeleteThis @att.net> skrev i melding
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> "nam" <nams DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
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> > anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net
> > magazine. Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
>
> Flash is good for coding applications and vector illustrations.
> HTML is good for everything else.
>
> Flash is primarily used by people that can't do proper HTML.
> Flash can be used well, but like anything, it's often not.
>
> BTW, ".Net" is a trademark of Microsoft for their latest internet-enabled
> software suite.
..net magazine has been around much longer than Microsoft's trademark.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.netmag.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.netmag.co.uk/</a>
I also don't think Microsoft could register that as a trademark, considering
that the ".net" term has been around at least as long as global domain
registrations.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:50 pm
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"Makrobicz" <spambouncer.RemoveThis@Makrobicz.com> wrote in message
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> "Charles Sweeney" <me.RemoveThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
> news:bhl864$ltlg$1@ID-162618.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > "nam" <nams.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:yyl%a.7857$Z52.5708@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > > hi y'all
> > >
> > > anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net
> > magazine.
> > > Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
> >
> > Obviously as cluless as you are.
> > --
> > Charles Sweeney
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> >
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> Ouch, did I miss something here?
Hi Mak, good to hear from you.
No history here, I couldn't be bothered writing a lot about it. Think
accessability, and I ain't talking about disabled people here!
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 7:34 pm
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"Makrobicz" <spambouncer.TakeThisOut@Makrobicz.com> wrote in message
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> Ouch, did I miss something here?
>
> ;0)
A lot actually. Where the hell have you been?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:42 pm
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:45 pm
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nam wrote:
> anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net magazine.
> Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
After reading the article earlier this month I reconsidered my
subscription to .NET. Comparing Flash and HTML being used for the same
purpose is like comparing apples and oranges.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:26 pm
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thank you Charles for that 'constructive' comment...
If you can't stay polite perhaps you shouldn't take part in adult
discussions
nam
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> > hi y'all
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> > anyone read the recent 'discussion' about Flash v HTML in the .Net
> magazine.
> > Flash won out (rightly, I think), but what do others think?
>
> Obviously as cluless as you are.
> --
> Charles Sweeney
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:35 am
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"Heidi" <blackcat2 RemoveThis @zwallet.com> wrote in message
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> Charging up on a white horse Makrobicz said:
> : Ouch, did I miss something here?
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> no not really. Charles just hates flash :p
Slight qualification here Heidi.
I think Flash is great, if used correctly.
In the context of the subject line, if it's an "either or" question, then
HTML naturally wins.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:35 am
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