expalin please - difference between nameserver and redirec..

"Red E. Kilowatt" <rekilowatt RemoveThis @aww-faq.org> wrote in message
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 > "Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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  > > Hi,
  > >
  > > I got myself some webspace, they have told me that I need to point the
  > > domain name to their name servers, they gave me two of them. The
  > > problem is that the company I registered the domain names with only
  > > offer me the ability to redirect to another page.
  > >
  > > Can anyone explain how this works, or will I have to transfer the
  > > domain name to the comapny I have now got space with.
  > >
  > > Any help would be much appreciated.
 >
 > All domain registrars provide a way for you to set the name servers that
 > your domain points to.


Actually, not true. Most registrars and registration providers do. Some
limit this to redirect.

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"Tina - AffordableHOST.com" <tina DeleteThis @affordablehost.com> wrote in message
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 > "Red E. Kilowatt" <rekilowatt DeleteThis @aww-faq.org> wrote in message
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  >> "Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
  >> news:KPH7b.1151$B55.439@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net
   >>> Hi,
   >>>
   >>> I got myself some webspace, they have told me that I need to point
   >>> the domain name to their name servers, they gave me two of them.
   >>> The problem is that the company I registered the domain names with
   >>> only offer me the ability to redirect to another page.
   >>>
   >>> Can anyone explain how this works, or will I have to transfer the
   >>> domain name to the comapny I have now got space with.
   >>>
   >>> Any help would be much appreciated.
  >>
  >> All domain registrars provide a way for you to set the name servers
  >> that your domain points to.
 >
 >
 > Actually, not true. Most registrars and registration providers do.
 > Some limit this to redirect.
 >
 > --Tina

Are you saying that some registrars will only point your domain to their
servers? How can that be if you've paid to register a domain name? I don't
get it.
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I have registered all my domain names with <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.oneandone.co.uk" target="_blank">www.oneandone.co.uk</a> I have
emailed their support desk but no-one has gotten back to me as of yet.

The person that emailed me from the webspace company was under the
impression that everyone allowed for this but I can't find it anywhere in
the administration pages.

"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > I got myself some webspace, they have told me that I need to point the
 > domain name to their name servers, they gave me two of them. The problem
is
 > that the company I registered the domain names with only offer me the
 > ability to redirect to another page.
 >
 > Can anyone explain how this works, or will I have to transfer the domain
 > name to the comapny I have now got space with.
 >
 > Any help would be much appreciated.
 >
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"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > I have registered all my domain names with <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.oneandone.co.uk" target="_blank">www.oneandone.co.uk</a> I have
 > emailed their support desk but no-one has gotten back to me as of yet.
 >
 > The person that emailed me from the webspace company was under the
 > impression that everyone allowed for this but I can't find it
 > anywhere in the administration pages.
 >

From their Faq:
Overview :: 2. Domain names: Getting started and troubleshooting :: Using
and setting up your domain

Can I have the DNS pointed to another location

At the moment OneAndOne do not point DNS Records to other Hosting companies
or other IP addresses. If you have registered a domain with us you will need
to cancel the package and then move the domain name to another domain
registrar that does point the DNS.
---------------------------

It's hard for me to understand how they can operate like this, but it's
apparently true.

Here's another quote from their site:
"No binding contract!
Unlike other providers 1&1 does not charge any cancellation or release fees.
You can cancel your contract with 1&1 at any time. Just let us know and
that's it. We feel that the only customer is a happy customer, so we won't
tie you down to an unfair contract."

I suggest you cancel the contract and move your domain elsewhere.
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"Red E. Kilowatt" <rekilowatt.DeleteThis@aww-faq.org> wrote in message
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 > Can I have the DNS pointed to another location
 >
 > At the moment OneAndOne do not point DNS Records to other Hosting
companies
 > or other IP addresses. If you have registered a domain with us you will
need
 > to cancel the package and then move the domain name to another domain
 > registrar that does point the DNS.

Sounds a bit shitty that. Must be because they are not a proper registrar.
I don't think a registrar would get away with that.
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"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > I have registered all my domain names with <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.oneandone.co.uk" target="_blank">www.oneandone.co.uk</a> I have
 > emailed their support desk but no-one has gotten back to me as of yet.
They are not a tld Registrar - they are a reseller! (Dont know their status
as far as .uk names go)

They say they are selling you domain names but if you read carefully you
will see they are really selling quasi - hosting and other products. They
appear to have no facility for changing dns

I would recommend you transfer the names to another registrar, (a proper one
or a good reseller)


 > The person that emailed me from the webspace company was under the
 > impression that everyone allowed for this but I can't find it anywhere in
 > the administration pages.
 >
 > "Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:KPH7b.1151$B55.439@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
  > > Hi,
  > >
  > > I got myself some webspace, they have told me that I need to point the
  > > domain name to their name servers, they gave me two of them. The
problem
 > is
  > > that the company I registered the domain names with only offer me the
  > > ability to redirect to another page.
  > >
  > > Can anyone explain how this works, or will I have to transfer the domain
  > > name to the comapny I have now got space with.
  > >
  > > Any help would be much appreciated.
  > >
  > >
 >
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"Red E. Kilowatt" <rekilowatt.TakeThisOut@aww-faq.org> wrote in message
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 > "Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:KPH7b.1151$B55.439@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net
  > > Hi,
  > >
  > > I got myself some webspace, they have told me that I need to point the
  > > domain name to their name servers, they gave me two of them. The
  > > problem is that the company I registered the domain names with only
  > > offer me the ability to redirect to another page.
  > >
  > > Can anyone explain how this works, or will I have to transfer the
  > > domain name to the comapny I have now got space with.
  > >
  > > Any help would be much appreciated.
 >
 > All domain registrars provide a way for you to set the name servers that
 > your domain points to. Ask your registrar how to change the nameserver
 > settings.
 >
Ahem, <nitpicking for clarity>
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"Tina - AffordableHOST.com" <tina.TakeThisOut@affordablehost.com> wrote in message
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 > "Red E. Kilowatt" <rekilowatt.TakeThisOut@aww-faq.org> wrote in message
 > news:YwI7b.49721$IJ6.1745526@twister.socal.rr.com...
  > > "Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
  > > news:KPH7b.1151$B55.439@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net
   > > > Hi,
   > > >
   > > > I got myself some webspace, they have told me that I need to point the
   > > > domain name to their name servers, they gave me two of them. The
   > > > problem is that the company I registered the domain names with only
   > > > offer me the ability to redirect to another page.
   > > >
   > > > Can anyone explain how this works, or will I have to transfer the
   > > > domain name to the comapny I have now got space with.
   > > >
   > > > Any help would be much appreciated.
  > >
  > > All domain registrars provide a way for you to set the name servers that
  > > your domain points to.
 >
 >
 > Actually, not true. Most registrars and registration providers do. Some
 > limit this to redirect.
 >
Actually Tina, that part is true! All domain Registrars not only provide,
but are required to provide as part of their agreement with both Internic
and with Verisign (TLD's), an interface for domain name 'owners' to be able
to manage their domain.

Even where a reseller does not provide for that, the name owner always has
the option to go direct to the name sponsor, (Registrar) and get access to
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"Charles Sweeney" <me.RemoveThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 > "Red E. Kilowatt" <rekilowatt.RemoveThis@aww-faq.org> wrote in message
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 >
  > > Can I have the DNS pointed to another location
  > >
  > > At the moment OneAndOne do not point DNS Records to other Hosting
 > companies
  > > or other IP addresses. If you have registered a domain with us you will
 > need
  > > to cancel the package and then move the domain name to another domain
  > > registrar that does point the DNS.
 >
 > Sounds a bit shitty that. Must be because they are not a proper
registrar.
 > I don't think a registrar would get away with that.
Quite correct Charles
They are not a Registrar at least for tld names
If they were they would be bound by the Internic and Verisign agreements
that both require registrars to provide a facility for name owners to be
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:24:50 +1200, "Bill Logan" <blogan.DeleteThis@clear.net.nz>
wrote:

....

   >> > At the moment OneAndOne do not point DNS Records to other Hosting
  >> companies

....

  >> Sounds a bit shitty that. Must be because they are not a proper
 >registrar.
  >> I don't think a registrar would get away with that.
 >Quite correct Charles
 >They are not a Registrar at least for tld names
 >If they were they would be bound by the Internic and Verisign agreements
 >that both require registrars to provide a facility for name owners to be
 >able to change domain records - including dns etc.


A registrar's obligations should be imposed on their resellers. If it
weren't the case you'd just start a registrar then operate as a
reseller for yourself to get out of your obligations.

I would move my domain then find out who their 'parent' registrar is
and point out the fact that 1&1 are playing a bit fast and loose with
the rules.


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