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user3187

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Since: Nov 21, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:49 pm
Post subject: Virus origin
Archived from groups: alt>computer>security, others (more info?)

I've installed Amavis/AntiVir on my Linux system and this seems to be doing
a good job of intercepting nasties. But I have a question about the
information supplied by these packages.

I know that malware programs typically spoof the 'From' header, so I'm
ignoring that. However, I'm intrigued by the 'Received:' headers. Amavis
highlights the earliest 'Received:' header in the chain. Here's an example:

According to the 'Received:' trace, the message originated at:
   host217-42-163-55.range217-42.btcentralplus.com  ([217.42.163.55]
helo=frenchentree.com)

Now, that 'helo=frenchentree.com' interests me. That's a site for which my
wife (to whom all these virus-bearing messages were addressed) has just
started working. We've had a bunch of these and there are other indications
that the guy she's working for might actually be the source of the malware.

So, the question is, do malware programs also somehow spoof the HELO? Or is
this actual proof that the malware originated from the frenchentree.com
domain? I need to know before I give the guy a bollocking and tell him to
sort out his system.

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mnc

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Since: Oct 30, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Virus origin [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <uff672-2sq.ln1.RemoveThis@anon.com>, srm <user.RemoveThis@nospam.org> wrote:
 > I know that malware programs typically spoof the 'From' header, so I'm
 > ignoring that. However, I'm intrigued by the 'Received:' headers. Amavis
 > highlights the earliest 'Received:' header in the chain.

....which could be fake.

 > Here's an example:
 >
 > According to the 'Received:' trace, the message originated at:
 >    host217-42-163-55.range217-42.btcentralplus.com  ([217.42.163.55]
 > helo=frenchentree.com)
 >
 > Now, that 'helo=frenchentree.com' interests me. That's a site for which my
 > wife (to whom all these virus-bearing messages were addressed) has just
 > started working. We've had a bunch of these and there are other indications
 > that the guy she's working for might actually be the source of the malware.
 >
 > So, the question is, do malware programs also somehow spoof the HELO?

Yes, all the time. Quite often they pick something that matches the target
address's domain.

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user3187

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:32 pm
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Miguel Cruz wrote:

 > Yes, all the time. Quite often they pick something that matches the target
 > address's domain.

Okay - thanks to everyone for the replies. It may be coincidence, then.

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