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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:15 am
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I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
<acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do exactly
the same thing......Am I missing something?....
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:15 am
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"Fat Sam" <janetandsam.TakeThisOut@btbroadband.com> wrote in message
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> I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do exactly
> the same thing......Am I missing something?....
>
Be prepared for a lengthy debate over the difference between what makes an
acronym and what makes an abbreviation...
Basically, one marks an acronym and one marks an abbreviation.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:15 am
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"Fat Sam" <janetandsam DeleteThis @btbroadband.com> wrote in message
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> I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do exactly
> the same thing......Am I missing something?....
>
Oh, and for what it's worth, I don't anticipate that either element will
help towards SEO
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:15 am
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Quoth the raven named Karl Groves:
> Be prepared for a lengthy debate over the difference between what
> makes an acronym and what makes an abbreviation...
Oh no! Is it April already?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:27 am
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"Fat Sam" <janetandsam RemoveThis @btbroadband.com> wrote in message
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> I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do exactly
> the same thing......Am I missing something?....
>
> --
> Sam.
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Ben has some good thoughts (he's also a lurker here)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:29 am
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"Karl Groves" <karl.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote in message
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> "Fat Sam" <janetandsam.TakeThisOut@btbroadband.com> wrote in message
> news:c6k598$cu0ft$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> > confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> > <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do
exactly
> > the same thing......Am I missing something?....
> >
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> Oh, and for what it's worth, I don't anticipate that either element will
> help towards SEO
Hmmmm...Everything I've read has suggested that they'll help.....I guess it
can't hurt to include them anyway, just in case.....
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:32 am
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"Karl Groves" <karl RemoveThis @NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote in message
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> "Fat Sam" <janetandsam RemoveThis @btbroadband.com> wrote in message
> news:c6k598$cu0ft$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> > confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> > <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do
exactly
> > the same thing......Am I missing something?....
> >
>
> Be prepared for a lengthy debate over the difference between what makes an
> acronym and what makes an abbreviation...
> Basically, one marks an acronym and one marks an abbreviation.
As I see it, the two are almost interchangeable....Perhaps <abbr> is a bit
more universal that <acronym> as an acronym is just a specific kind of
abbreviation.....So to my mind the term 'abbreviation' is a larger more
general term for things like Initials pnemonics and acronyms.....
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:33 am
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"Mak" <spambouncer RemoveThis @Makrobicz.com> wrote in message
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> "Fat Sam" <janetandsam RemoveThis @btbroadband.com> wrote in message
> news:c6k598$cu0ft$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> > confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> > <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do
exactly
> > the same thing......Am I missing something?....
> >
> > --
> > Sam.
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> > for desirable devices
> >
>
>
> Ben has some good thoughts (he's also a lurker here)
>
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev/articles/abbr-vs-acronym.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://www.benmeadowcroft.com/webdev/articles/abbr-vs-acronym.shtml</font</a>>
Cheers Mak....I'll give it a read.....
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:43 am
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"Fat Sam" <janetandsam.DeleteThis@btbroadband.com> wrote in message
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> I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do exactly
> the same thing......Am I missing something?....
Hmmm.....I've just noticed that in IE6, the acronym tag shows up the text in
the same way as the alt text on an image, but the abbr tag doesn't.....
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:26 am
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Quoth the raven named Karl Groves:
>> Be prepared for a lengthy debate over the difference between what
>> makes an acronym and what makes an abbreviation...
> Oh no! Is it April already?
It is once someone tosses "initialism" into the mix, too. 
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:41 am
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"Fat Sam" <janetandsam RemoveThis @btbroadband.com> wrote in message
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> "Fat Sam" <janetandsam RemoveThis @btbroadband.com> wrote in message
> news:c6k598$cu0ft$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> > confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> > <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....As far as I can see, they do
exactly
> > the same thing......Am I missing something?....
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> Hmmm.....I've just noticed that in IE6, the acronym tag shows up the text
in
> the same way as the alt text on an image, but the abbr tag doesn't.....
>
LOL,
You were warned. Now read the crappy W3C explanation.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:44 am
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:15:38 +0100, Fat Sam wrote:
> I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:54 am
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"Fat Sam" <janetandsam.TakeThisOut@btbroadband.com> wrote in message
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> as an acronym is just a specific kind of abbreviation.....So to my mind
the term 'abbreviation' is a larger more general term for things like
Initials pnemonics and acronyms.....
Sounds valid to me.
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"Fat Sam" <janetandsam.RemoveThis@btbroadband.com> said:
> I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....
this pops up all the time, its a seemingly endless debate.
<acronym>
"A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC for
Women's Army Corps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series
of words, such as radar for radio detecting and ranging."
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=acronym" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=acronym</a>
ACRONYM: Indicates an acronym (e.g., WAC, radar, etc.).
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1</a>
<abbr>
"A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to
represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for
United States Marine Corps."
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=abbreviation" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=abbreviation</a>
ABBR: Indicates an abbreviated form (e.g., WWW, HTTP, URI, Mass., etc.).
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1</a>
<acronym title="light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation">laser</acronym>
<abbr title="what the fuck would i know">WTFWIK</abbr>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:36 pm
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"brucie" <shit.TakeThisOut@bruciesusenetshit.info> wrote in message
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> "Fat Sam" <janetandsam.TakeThisOut@btbroadband.com> said:
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> > I'm putting together a revised SEO strategy, but I've hit a wall of
> > confusion.....I can't figure out what the difference is between the
> > <acronym> tag and the <abbr> tag.....
>
> this pops up all the time, its a seemingly endless debate.
>
> <acronym>
> "A word formed from the initial letters of a name, such as WAC for
> Women's Army Corps, or by combining initial letters or parts of a series
> of words, such as radar for radio detecting and ranging."
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=acronym</font" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=acronym</font</a>>
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> ACRONYM: Indicates an acronym (e.g., WAC, radar, etc.).
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1</font" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1</font</a>>
>
> <abbr>
> "A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to
> represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for
> United States Marine Corps."
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=abbreviation</font" target="_blank">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=abbreviation</font</a>>
>
> ABBR: Indicates an abbreviated form (e.g., WWW, HTTP, URI, Mass., etc.).
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1</font" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1</font</a>>
>
> <acronym title="light amplification by stimulated emission of
radiation">laser</acronym>
>
> <abbr title="what the fuck would i know">WTFWIK</abbr>
Would you agree that in areas of doubt, where it's difficult to be sure
which is which, the safest thing to do is just use the <abbr> tag?
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