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packie




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 5:07 pm
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Hi,

I plan to setup an online shop which will be database driven. One of the ways a visitor will select a product will be by selecting a choice from several dropdown lists. Based on the visiter choices a query will return one or more items where a choice to purchase a product can be made. I have some experence of MSAccess but from reading replys on other posts MSAccess does not appear to be suitable for this type of web use.

I currently do not have a web design package and would appreciate suggestions of which product to choose.

Thanks

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 > Hi,
 >
 > I plan to setup an online shop which will be database driven. One of
 > the ways a visitor will select a product will be by selecting a choice
 > from several dropdown lists. Based on the visiter choices a query
 > will return one or more items where a choice to purchase a product can
 > be made. I have some experence of MSAccess but from reading replys on
 > other posts MSAccess does not appear to be suitable for this type of
 > web use.
 >
 > I currently do not have a web design package and would appreciate
 > suggestions of which product to choose.
 >
 > Thanks
 >
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Code it from scratch, use mySQL as your database, or --

Get a hosting pack from a host that includes the OSCommerce software
solution <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://oscommerce.org/" target="_blank">http://oscommerce.org/</a>
Fantastico auto installs OSCommerce and all you have to do is configure your
options and selections easily with a admin login.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 6:55 pm
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packie wrote

 > Hi,
 >
 > I plan to setup an online shop which will be database driven. One of
 > the ways a visitor will select a product will be by selecting a choice
 > from several dropdown lists. Based on the visiter choices a query
 > will return one or more items where a choice to purchase a product can
 > be made. I have some experence of MSAccess but from reading replys on
 > other posts MSAccess does not appear to be suitable for this type of
 > web use.
 >
 > I currently do not have a web design package and would appreciate
 > suggestions of which product to choose.

Depending on volume etc, you might like to consider a third-party system
such as <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://ccnow.com" target="_blank">http://ccnow.com</a>

I have used them and can recommend them.

It is very easy to setup and incorporate into a webpage, I think they
have inventory control also.

Paypal also have some easy to implement solutions for selling products.

Failing that, you can write your own which would take a bit of learning,
or you can get an off-the-shelf package like <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://oscommerce.com/" target="_blank">http://oscommerce.com/</a>

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 6:55 pm
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Forging a path through the alt.www.webmaster jungle, packie burst into a
clearing and said:

 > Hi,
 >
 > I plan to setup an online shop which will be database driven.

Other replies have suggested you look at OTS solutions. If this is your
first site then I'm inclined to agree, however if you're determined ....

 > I have some experence of MSAccess but from reading replys on
 > other posts MSAccess does not appear to be suitable for this type of
 > web use.

Depends - you can consider MS-Access to be a useful prototyping tool, but
it doesn't scale well to lots of data or many concurrent users.

This may (or may not) be a problem for you depending on the size of your
database and the popularity of your products.

Other readily available db engines include ....
o MySQL - cheap but has its own issues
o PostgreSQL - not so common but robust
o SQL Server - robust but will (probably) cost you a few shekels more.

 > I currently do not have a web design package and would appreciate
 > suggestions of which product to choose.

Completely different can of maggots - I recommend you start with notepad
and only when you are conversant with the requirements of HTML, CSS and
SQL should you progress to more powerful tools like TextPad.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:55 pm
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packie <UseLinkToEmail RemoveThis @HostingForumz.com> wrote in news:9_119034_
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 > I plan to setup an online shop which will be database driven. One of
 > the ways a visitor will select a product will be by selecting a choice
 > from several dropdown lists.

Thats one of the worst possible things to tackle. The possibilities for
damage to your clients business, and to the purchasers information, is
about as big as it gets.

I would definetly seek a pre-made backend. Even 3r party. There will still
be plenty of work you can do to make it look unique and fit your clients
business.

Now if you are tackling something small then you can do things on your own
but keep in mind that the more automated it is, the more disastrous it can
be. Something which shows images, lets the buyer choose, then takes the
info which is SENT to another machine for human processing can be ok.
Something where only the people who are actually ordering at that moment
have info on a machine which is on the net.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:55 pm
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packie wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > I plan to setup an online shop which will be database driven. One of
 > the ways a visitor will select a product will be by selecting a choice
 > from several dropdown lists. Based on the visiter choices a query
 > will return one or more items where a choice to purchase a product can
 > be made. I have some experence of MSAccess but from reading replys on
 > other posts MSAccess does not appear to be suitable for this type of
 > web use.
 >
 > I currently do not have a web design package and would appreciate
 > suggestions of which product to choose.
 >
 > Thanks
 >
I've run two successful online shops with MS Access databases....No
slowdown, no timeouts, accurate, and fast retrieval time....
One of them had 200 products entered, the other had in excess of 1000....

In my experience, MS access was perfectly adequate for running an
average sized, successful online shop....

Of course, if you're expecting the sort of traffic figures that the
likes of Amazon pulls in (frankly an unrealistic expectation), then you
might need to reconsider....

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:55 pm
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Forging a path through the alt.www.webmaster jungle, armed only with a
rusty Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206), Fat Sam burst into a
clearing and said:

 > packie wrote:
  >> ...
  >> I have some experence of MSAccess but from reading replys on
  >> other posts MSAccess does not appear to be suitable for this type of
  >> web use.
 > ...
 > In my experience, MS access was perfectly adequate for running an
 > average sized, successful online shop....

ok - here's more detail on the subject, as you will see there are no hard
figures

What are the limitations of MS Access?
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2195" target="_blank">http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2195</a>

As always - you pats yer money and makes yer choice.

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packie




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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:29 pm
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gandalf wrote:
"I would definetly seek a pre-made backend. Even 3r party. There will still
be plenty of work you can do to make it look unique and fit your clients
business. "

Can you suggest any I should look at. I am based in the UK.
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packie




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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:40 pm
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spamblocked1 wrote:
"Completely different can of maggots - I recommend you start with notepad
and only when you are conversant with the requirements of HTML, CSS and
SQL should you progress to more powerful tools like TextPad. "

Are you suggesting there is no need to use Dreameaver or Frontpage or other?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 7:55 pm
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packie <UseLinkToEmail RemoveThis @HostingForumz.com> wrote in news:9_119161_
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 > Can you suggest any I should look at. I am based in the UK.

Your keywords are...
ecommerce shop hosting UK

Put those into google.com and you will get plenty to read about. Im afraid
that I cant recommend any particular one. But thats best anyway since my
top list of things I would want from such a site is probably different than
yours

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