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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:23 am
Post subject: Portland OK for very small site? What about transferring out?
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Let's say, for example, that I have several domain names. Each with a very
small, simple, flat html site.
I can take advantage of my registrar's free forwarding to some free
webspace, but either plain forwarding or framed, apparently neither are very
search-engine friendly.
So then I saw http://portland.co.uk, and it seems easy for the .com
domains - just change the name servers. If I don't like it - I can just
change them back!
BUT...to handle .co.uk domains, they want me to change the IPSTAG to them,
and their domain name renewal charges are ridiculously high (.uk: £35 ,
..com:£52) and although I don't see a "trapping" clause in the T&C, I'm just
wondering whether this might be the snag.
All I really want to do is point a couple of .com and .co.uk domains at some
"real" webspace, but all it needs to be is 10 flat html pages totalling
about 20k in all. Is Portland what I want? Any other recommends?
And before someone says "pay for it, cheapskate!", perhaps when I think of a
way to make money, I might  |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 4:41 am
Post subject: Re: Portland OK for very small site? What about transferring out? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 23 Jul 2004, in alt.internet.providers.uk, "Alan" wrote:
>and it seems easy for the .com domains - just change the name servers.
>If I don't like it - I can just change them back! BUT...to handle
>.co.uk domains, they want me to change the IPSTAG to them, and their
>domain name renewal charges are ridiculously high (.uk: £35 , .com:£52)
>and although I don't see a "trapping" clause in the T&C, I'm just
>wondering whether this might be the snag.
I felt "stung" when I tried to get the domain moved to another firm and
gave them notice (but it seems they wanted at least a month's notice and
I was on 30 days not 31). If you request a transfer out from them 6+ weeks
from the date of renewal and copy the e-mail to yourself, it should be OK.
I think their service works even if you never change the IPSTAG
Their service was heavily loaded last time I tried (which meant that it
sometimes took lots of attempts to get my FTP s/w to connect. It is one
reason they offer paid-for hosting on other less heavily loaded servers!
As your pages are 'static' there should be no problem once they're on.
>All I really want to do is point a couple of .com and .co.uk domains at some
>"real" webspace, but all it needs to be is 10 flat html pages totalling
>about 20k in all. Is Portland what I want? Any other recommends?
When you get close to renewal, I can recommend Nameroute.co.uk (which has a
renewal fee that works out at 7 quid a year for .co.uk) and gives 10 MB web
space with a limit of 100 MB of traffic a month, but also offers web stats
available from their control panel. If 10 MB is eventually too small then
use ukreg.com (or perhaps 123-reg.co.uk, but they have a transfer-in fee)
as either of these allow the user to set the DNS entries, and have low
fees for .*.uk domains. My ISP, PlusNet, will host domains for users even
if they are with some other registration firm. Hope that helps. Peter M.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:20 am
Post subject: Re: Portland OK for very small site? What about transferring out? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<alt.internet.providers.uk , Alan , news RemoveThis @netwerx.freeserve.co.uk>
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> All I really want to do is point a couple of .com and .co.uk domains at some
> "real" webspace, but all it needs to be is 10 flat html pages totalling
> about 20k in all. Is Portland what I want? Any other recommends?
>
> And before someone says "pay for it, cheapskate!", perhaps when I think of a
> way to make money, I might
>
So in effect , A self imposed rule is stopping you from doing what you
want to do ? .
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:27 am
Post subject: Re: Portland OK for very small site? What about transferring out? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"poster" <us-mail RemoveThis @rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 23 Jul 2004, in alt.internet.providers.uk, "Alan" wrote:
> If 10 MB is eventually too small then
> use ukreg.com (or perhaps 123-reg.co.uk, but they have a transfer-in fee)
Not until the end of August they don't! You can transfer in a .uk domain for
free; I did a few recently, mainly to get rid of uk2 popups.
Also learnt handy trick: for .com domains registered with uk2, just make a
login at joker.com identical to uk2, viola, your domains appear, and you can
change the name servers to joker, and away go the nasty banners
> as either of these allow the user to set the DNS entries, and have low
> fees for .*.uk domains.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:18 pm
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"SM" <webmaster.DeleteThis@smtpemail.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
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> <alt.internet.providers.uk , Alan , news.DeleteThis@netwerx.freeserve.co.uk>
> <2mdhebFlqg72U1.DeleteThis@uni-berlin.de>
> <Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:23:06 +0100>
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> > All I really want to do is point a couple of .com and .co.uk domains at
some
> > "real" webspace, but all it needs to be is 10 flat html pages totalling
> > about 20k in all. Is Portland what I want? Any other recommends?
> >
> > And before someone says "pay for it, cheapskate!", perhaps when I think
of a
> > way to make money, I might
> >
>
> So in effect , A self imposed rule is stopping you from doing what you
> want to do ? .
If you transfer your domain to us you will get 10Mb of free web space and a
POP3 account.
We charge £14 for renewals.
There is no transfer fee if you want to move out.
See:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.nameroute.co.uk/transferuk_free.html" target="_blank">http://www.nameroute.co.uk/transferuk_free.html</a>
..uk domains are free to transfer.
..com's are £14 as we need to renew the domain for a year to move it.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Portland OK for very small site? What about transferring out? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 24 Jul 2004 08:27, in alt.internet.providers.uk, "Alan" wrote:
>"poster" <us-mail.RemoveThis@rocketmail.com> wrote
>> (or perhaps 123-reg.co.uk, but they have a transfer-in fee)
>Not until the end of August they don't! You can transfer in a .uk domain
>for free; I did a few recently, mainly to get rid of uk2 popups.
Thanks. I wish they would send e-mail when they have promotions on... the
reminders for domain renewals come thick and fast (kidding, but 60, 45, 30,
18, 3 and 1 days notice mail messages for a couple of domains 'mount up')
so if I need to 'opt in' I will... Thanks for the info.
>you can change the name servers to joker, and away go the nasty banners
seems a good idea. I was unimpressed when I saw how many pop-ups arrived
some time back when looking at a random (but registered) domain. But to
get away from Joker doesn't seem plain sailing, from past comments...
>> as either of these allow the user to set the DNS entries, and have low
>> fees for .*.uk domains.
>
>But aren't you then back to the url forwarding which spiders don't like?
If you can set the DNS entries yourself, you can take up hosting with any
firm you wish. I did put "If 10 MB is eventually too small" so I assumed
you would be moving to some hosting firm. You can host up to 500 MB with
multi-GB traffic limits for as low as $9.95 if you look around, so I hope
it would not "break the bank" Incidentally, if you are paying above
US$9 for .com/org/info then there are better deals available (e-mail me).
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:57 pm
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"poster" <us-mail RemoveThis @rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 24 Jul 2004 08:27, in alt.internet.providers.uk, "Alan" wrote:
>>"poster" <us-mail RemoveThis @rocketmail.com> wrote
>>> (or perhaps 123-reg.co.uk, but they have a transfer-in fee)
>>But aren't you then back to the url forwarding which spiders don't like?
> If you can set the DNS entries yourself, you can take up hosting with any
> firm you wish. I did put "If 10 MB is eventually too small" so I assumed
> you would be moving to some hosting firm. You can host up to 500 MB with
> multi-GB traffic limits for as low as $9.95 if you look around, so I hope
Well there's the thing - I've got 1Gb with 150Gb traffic for £50 for the
year (US$7.77 per month) BUT it's a one off $35 for each "extra" domain you
"bolt on".
And search engines prefer things geographically apart and in different
netblocks.
So say I had 5 free domains at Portland, all with pages pointing to the same
"proper" website, the pagerank generated would be much lower than if I had
one site hosted in Germany, one in the USA, one in NZ, one in the UK etc.
Ultimately, Google etc will see those diverse sites/pages as being a more
genuine and therefore higher value reverse PR link than the former. At
least, that's the one that shines through consistantly during the last weeks
headache of trawling SEO forums!
Yes, I know I could get into all this "cloaking" nonsense, but to be honest,
that counts as "cheating" and most spiders can detect cloaking now. I want
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:29 pm
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"Alan" <news DeleteThis @netwerx.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "poster" <us-mail DeleteThis @rocketmail.com> wrote in message
> news:08q4g0li5ckeu7i1bii872p815bgkrir44@4ax.com...
> > On 24 Jul 2004 08:27, in alt.internet.providers.uk, "Alan" wrote:
>
> >>"poster" <us-mail DeleteThis @rocketmail.com> wrote
> >>> (or perhaps 123-reg.co.uk, but they have a transfer-in fee)
>
> >>But aren't you then back to the url forwarding which spiders don't like?
>
> > If you can set the DNS entries yourself, you can take up hosting with
any
> > firm you wish. I did put "If 10 MB is eventually too small" so I assumed
> > you would be moving to some hosting firm. You can host up to 500 MB
with
> > multi-GB traffic limits for as low as $9.95 if you look around, so I
hope
>
> Well there's the thing - I've got 1Gb with 150Gb traffic for £50 for the
> year (US$7.77 per month) BUT it's a one off $35 for each "extra" domain
you
> "bolt on".
> And search engines prefer things geographically apart and in different
> netblocks.
> So say I had 5 free domains at Portland, all with pages pointing to the
same
> "proper" website, the pagerank generated would be much lower than if I had
> one site hosted in Germany, one in the USA, one in NZ, one in the UK etc.
> Ultimately, Google etc will see those diverse sites/pages as being a more
> genuine and therefore higher value reverse PR link than the former. At
> least, that's the one that shines through consistantly during the last
weeks
> headache of trawling SEO forums!
Be careful with these experts.
I was assured by many experts that having a site on a unique IP address
boosted its rankings
so off I went and moved one of our site sonto a unique IP.
A week later we had dropped 10 places having been around the same ranking
for 2 years.
No other changes had been made.
Another sad fact is that 4 years ago we could get traffic being in position
8 or even 15.
People would drill down the listings even for fairly obscure search terms.
Now, if you are not #1 for the obscure terms you might as well not be listed
at all and if you are outside the top 10 for very popular terms you won't
get much out of it.
Thats my experience and I am sticking to it!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:20 am
Post subject: Re: Portland OK for very small site? What about transferring out? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> All I really want to do is point a couple of .com and .co.uk domains at
some
> "real" webspace, but all it needs to be is 10 flat html pages totalling
> about 20k in all. Is Portland what I want? Any other recommends?
Under normal circumstances you'd be looking for several hosting accounts or
a reseller account that gives you the ability to host multiple domains on
your account each with their own web space and ftp accounts. Most hosts
would offer you a fairly standard package in that respect.
If you want to email me ( support @ nsnoc . com ) with the details I'll
ensure that we provide you with enough ftp accounts to host all of your
domains within one of our standard hosting packages. (Packages start at
£16.99 per year for hosting with domain renewal fees at £8.50)
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