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nospambillgean

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:39 pm
Post subject: OSCommerce v. Actinic
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Am I comparing apples to apples between OSCommerce and Actinic?

I really like the all-in-one-wrapper Actinic Catalogue product. Sure
OSCommerce is free but if I have to spend a shitload of time working with it
whereas I can purchase Actinic and be done with it, it makes sense to me to
purchase the Actinic software.

Feelings? Comments?

Thanks,
Bill

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user3048

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:00 pm
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In article <T2M2b.10542$jY2.2271@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
nospambillgean.RemoveThis@nospamearthlink.net says...
 > Am I comparing apples to apples between OSCommerce and Actinic?
 >
 > I really like the all-in-one-wrapper Actinic Catalogue product. Sure
 > OSCommerce is free but if I have to spend a shitload of time working with it
 > whereas I can purchase Actinic and be done with it, it makes sense to me to
 > purchase the Actinic software.

Uhm..., I can take the zip file containing OSCommerce to a properly
configured server and have it running inside of five minutes.
When I'm done with that "shitload" of work, I'll have a platform that is
far more capable, not to mention flexible and extensible, than Actinic.
And I will have spent not one thin dime.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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gbuchanan

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:22 pm
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There is no cost to paysystems catalog system and is very good.


"Neb Revod" <spammers.biteme DeleteThis @flatline.com> wrote in message
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 > In article <T2M2b.10542$jY2.2271@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
 > nospambillgean DeleteThis @nospamearthlink.net says...
  > > Am I comparing apples to apples between OSCommerce and Actinic?
  > >
  > > I really like the all-in-one-wrapper Actinic Catalogue product. Sure
  > > OSCommerce is free but if I have to spend a shitload of time working
with it
  > > whereas I can purchase Actinic and be done with it, it makes sense to me
to
  > > purchase the Actinic software.
 >
 > Uhm..., I can take the zip file containing OSCommerce to a properly
 > configured server and have it running inside of five minutes.
 > When I'm done with that "shitload" of work, I'll have a platform that is
 > far more capable, not to mention flexible and extensible, than Actinic.
 > And I will have spent not one thin dime.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:35 pm
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feelings?
OSCommerce, mmmmmmm.
Actinic, Argh!

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:39:15 GMT, "DollarBill"
<nospambillgean.RemoveThis@nospamearthlink.net> wrote:

 >Am I comparing apples to apples between OSCommerce and Actinic?
 >
 >I really like the all-in-one-wrapper Actinic Catalogue product. Sure
 >OSCommerce is free but if I have to spend a shitload of time working with it
 >whereas I can purchase Actinic and be done with it, it makes sense to me to
 >purchase the Actinic software.
 >
 >Feelings? Comments?
 >
 >Thanks,
 >Bill
 >
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cdbarling

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:26 am
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 >'ll have a platform that is
 > far more capable, not to mention flexible and extensible, than Actinic.
 > And I will have spent not one thin dime.

I think this is over-simplification. OK, I'm biased, as I work for Actinic.
However, I can tell you that while there are some features that OS Commerce has
out-of-the-box that Actinic doesn't, there are a shed load of features that
Actinic has which OSC doesn't. One examnple is in the whole area of making
selections of complex products made up of collections of other products.

Of course OSC is infintely flexible, it's Open Source so you can program
whatever you want. C++ is infintely flexible, too. But that's the point, it's
programming. If you want to make all of the changes yourself, OSC is a good
bet. As long as you're willing to make them again when the next release comes
out, then all over again next time and so on.

On the other hand, there are around 10,000 shops using Actinic, many turning
over more than $1m a year, so it can't be that bad Smile

Horses for courses.

Chris
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user3048

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:26 am
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In article <20030903172657.18133.00000398.DeleteThis@mb-m24.aol.com>,
cdbarling.DeleteThis@aol.com says...

 >
 > I think this is over-simplification. OK, I'm biased, as I work for Actinic.
 > However, I can tell you that while there are some features that OS Commerce has
 > out-of-the-box that Actinic doesn't, there are a shed load of features that
 > Actinic has which OSC doesn't. One examnple is in the whole area of making
 > selections of complex products made up of collections of other products.
 >
 > Of course OSC is infintely flexible, it's Open Source so you can program
 > whatever you want. C++ is infintely flexible, too. But that's the point, it's
 > programming. If you want to make all of the changes yourself, OSC is a good
 > bet. As long as you're willing to make them again when the next release comes
 > out, then all over again next time and so on.
 >
 > On the other hand, there are around 10,000 shops using Actinic, many turning
 > over more than $1m a year, so it can't be that bad Smile
 >
 > Horses for courses.

Let's see, complex products made up of collections of other products...
Like a custom PC, perhaps? Granted, OSC doesn't come out of the box with
this capability, but there is more than one contribution that will add
this very feature.

As for extending OSC requiring programming, well..., no. It doesn't. OSC
is created in PHP, which is a scripting language. PHP is a far cry from
C++ in both capability and complexity. To suggest that modifying OSC is
akin to programming in C++ is grossly inaccurate. Indeed, one needn't
even know anything about PHP to employ most of the hundreds of available
contributions to extend OSC. If one can follow instructions (albeit
meticulously) one can add just about any bell or whistle one might
desire.

There is something to be said for point-and-click commercial solutions.
But then, I'm biased. I would prefer to spend my money on customizing a
more powerful and extensible solution, rather than licensing commercial
software that has features I don't need and lacks one or two that I do
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burgh

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:31 pm
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I too have been pondering to delve into oscommerce over Miva. I have started
getting involved with php/mySQL, so I though OSCommmerce would the choice. I
don't use C++ but am learning php. I don't have a s**tload (naughty) of
time, but maybe a bucket load. Would OSCommerce be the right choice.

Thanks
Greg



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 > feelings?
 > OSCommerce, mmmmmmm.
 > Actinic, Argh!
 >
 > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:39:15 GMT, "DollarBill"
 > <nospambillgean DeleteThis @nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
 >
  > >Am I comparing apples to apples between OSCommerce and Actinic?
  > >
  > >I really like the all-in-one-wrapper Actinic Catalogue product. Sure
  > >OSCommerce is free but if I have to spend a shitload of time working with
it
  > >whereas I can purchase Actinic and be done with it, it makes sense to me
to
  > >purchase the Actinic software.
  > >
  > >Feelings? Comments?
  > >
  > >Thanks,
  > >Bill
  > >
  > >
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yeah

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:04 am
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Personally I have minimal php/mysql knowledge and have modified
OSCommerce a great deal. Remember there are a load of pre-written
mods. The install and configuring is easy as long as you are a little
bit techy.


On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:31:50 -0600, "Gregory Burgh" <burgh DeleteThis @core.com>
wrote:

 >I too have been pondering to delve into oscommerce over Miva. I have started
 >getting involved with php/mySQL, so I though OSCommmerce would the choice. I
 >don't use C++ but am learning php. I don't have a s**tload (naughty) of
 >time, but maybe a bucket load. Would OSCommerce be the right choice.
 >
 >Thanks
 >Greg
 >
 >
 >
 >"zeebop" <yeah DeleteThis @um.right> wrote in message
 >news:kv1qkv0kq421u7pfaa158uup4mt7fjkugs@4ax.com...
  >> feelings?
  >> OSCommerce, mmmmmmm.
  >> Actinic, Argh!
  >>
  >> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:39:15 GMT, "DollarBill"
  >> <nospambillgean DeleteThis @nospamearthlink.net> wrote:
  >>
   >> >Am I comparing apples to apples between OSCommerce and Actinic?
   >> >
   >> >I really like the all-in-one-wrapper Actinic Catalogue product. Sure
   >> >OSCommerce is free but if I have to spend a shitload of time working with
 >it
   >> >whereas I can purchase Actinic and be done with it, it makes sense to me
 >to
   >> >purchase the Actinic software.
   >> >
   >> >Feelings? Comments?
   >> >
   >> >Thanks,
   >> >Bill
   >> >
   >> >
  >>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:16 pm
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In article <vr00u7889uric3.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>, burgh.DeleteThis@core.com says...

 > I don't have a s**tload (naughty) of
 > time, but maybe a bucket load. Would OSCommerce be the right choice.

I think so - it depends on how "customised" you want your site to be.

If you're happy with default setup then a large pitcher of time is all=20
you'll need.

If you want a fairly standard site with maybe a few extra features, then=20
a bucketload will be absolutely fine.

It's only if you want to completely change the way it all works and the=20
way it all looks that you need s**tloads Wink

Give it a go, see how you get on ..... it'll be worth it Smile

Ali

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Complete osCommerce stores with customisation from just =A3199 GBP<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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