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Gilruthgirl

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:32 pm
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Hi - I am trying to build a website for my jewelry business using
Coffee Cup software, and I hate that software. I just bought
Photimpact 11 and I am wondering if there is some way to edit the
pages I made in Coffee Cup Virtual Site Designer with the Photoimpact
web software. But I am just learning about layers and all that
stuff. The website I have now is at www.gilruthdesigns.com via Lunar
Pages. Is there a way for me to start over with Photoimpact if I
can't use my Coffee Cup pages and then load them to Lunar Pages?

Photoimpact says you can make pages but it sounds like you have to
have some sort of index or the main pages in place or something to
make use of Photoimpact's web designing tools.

Please help! Desperate, Lila

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:45 pm
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Gilruthgirl DeleteThis @gmail.com writes:

> Hi - I am trying to build a website for my jewelry business using
> Coffee Cup software, and I hate that software. I just bought
> Photimpact 11 and I am wondering if there is some way to edit the
> pages I made in Coffee Cup Virtual Site Designer with the Photoimpact
> web software. But I am just learning about layers and all that
> stuff. The website I have now is at www.gilruthdesigns.com via Lunar
> Pages. Is there a way for me to start over with Photoimpact if I
> can't use my Coffee Cup pages and then load them to Lunar Pages?
>
> Photoimpact says you can make pages but it sounds like you have to
> have some sort of index or the main pages in place or something to
> make use of Photoimpact's web designing tools.
>
> Please help! Desperate, Lila

templatemonster.com ?

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Tedel

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:17 am
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For that situation (you're in a haste), I'd recommend hiring a
designer. Now, if you want to learn, there is a fast and easy XHTML
tutorial here: http://www.heptagrama.com/en/i_ref_pcs_0014.htm for you
to get an idea of how to start designing your site.
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Zanman

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:05 pm
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:32:10 -0800, Gilruthgirl wrote:

> Hi - I am trying to build a website for my jewelry business using Coffee
> Cup software, and I hate that software. I just bought Photimpact 11 and
> I am wondering if there is some way to edit the pages I made in Coffee
> Cup Virtual Site Designer with the Photoimpact web software. But I am
> just learning about layers and all that stuff. The website I have now
> is at www.gilruthdesigns.com via Lunar Pages. Is there a way for me to
> start over with Photoimpact if I can't use my Coffee Cup pages and then
> load them to Lunar Pages?
>
> Photoimpact says you can make pages but it sounds like you have to have
> some sort of index or the main pages in place or something to make use
> of Photoimpact's web designing tools.
>
> Please help! Desperate, Lila

no photoimpact, althought excellent software, wont help you.
you just going to have to learn some html, sorry

coffee cup is not bad either, I have a guitar but can't get it to work
right, my son can make it sing, I think it is the player....get it

also, joomla may be a easier way for you to get a workable site up
that you can manage yourself. A free shopping is available.
you may need someone to design your template for it, but after
that it is easy to use.

good luck
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Zanman

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:06 pm
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>
> also, joomla may be a easier way for you to get a workable site up that
> you can manage yourself. A free shopping is available. you may need
> someone to design your template for it, but after that it is easy to
> use.
>
> good luck

go joomla.org to learn more

here is a jewelry site I am working on right now,
colors and icons are funky and needs much more work,
but it is a work in progress

http://www.dragonjewelry.com
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RedOne77

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:06 pm
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:52:33 GMT, Zanman <zanman.RemoveThis@home.com> wrote:
>http://www.dragonjewelry.com
>here is a jewelry site I am working on right now,
>colors and icons are funky and needs much more work,
>but it is a work in progress
>


Not to mention the green contact info.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:25 am
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On 11 Feb, 21:32, Gilruthg....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> I am trying to build a website for my jewelry business

Start again. I neither know nor care what made those pages, but stop
using it ASAP.

Tutorials for good modern practice:

"Head first HTML with CSS & XHTML" (Start here!)

http://htmldog.com (If you won't buy a book)

"Casading Style Sheets", Lie & Bos (not the first thing to read)

Easiest way is text-based editing with any programmer's editor from
Notepad up, but KompoZer is supposed to be usable for WYSIWYG, if you
absolutely must have it.


Your existing site sucks badly, and for a few reasons:

* Lots of CSS absolute positioning. Works fine in a window at one
size, unreadable anywhere else. Just don't do this! (One of the big
caveats with using a dumb WYSIWYG editor).

* 10-year obsolete <table> based layout.

* "Text as bitmaps". You rarely need an image editor to make web
pages. You need to massage your product photos to make them pretty,
and you need to design logos. You should certainly _not_ stick every
menu item onto a blobby button.
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John Hosking

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:05 pm
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Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 11 Feb, 21:32, Gilruthg... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>> I am trying to build a website for my jewelry business
>
> Start again. I neither know nor care what made those pages,

The source sez: "generated by CoffeeCup Visual Site Designer."

> but stop using it ASAP.

Absolutely right. A series of absolutely-positioned DIVs containing
single-cell tables containing sing DIVs containing text broken up with
<br> every few words (this last might be the OP's fault).

....
>
> Your existing site sucks badly, and for a few reasons:
....
>
> * 10-year obsolete <table> based layout.

"Copyright 2006, CoffeeCup Software, Inc.," confesses the source.

....


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Now I know never to touch CoffeeCup software.
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