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Since: Mar 04, 2005 Posts: 19
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:50 pm
Post subject: MSN search getting better Archived from groups: alt>www>webmaster (more info?)
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i am noticing a lot more hits from MSN searches these days in my
webstats. Also my sites seem to be getting heavily indexed by the
msnbot daily. I checked it out and most of my keywords searches give
similar results to google for my website. In a few months I don't see
what competitive advantage google will have over MSN, or any other
search engine. They all seem to be getting better and google will just
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Since: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 154
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:35 am
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el_roachmeister wrote:
> In a few months I don't see what competitive advantage google will have
> over MSN
* Google News searches far more sources than MSN's equivalent.
* Google Groups
* Google Gulp <http://www.google.com/googlegulp/>
Add to that the fact that all MSN's recent improvements have simply been
copying Google, so it is likely that Google's users will get any future
advances in search technology months or years before MSN's users.
Stuff Google is currently working on includes:
* Google Scholar <http://scholar.google.com/>
* Google Video <http://video.google.com/>
* Google Maps <http://maps.google.com/>
About the only thing MSN Search includes than Google doesn't is its
"Encyclopedia" (which they manage to spell the American way even in the UK
edition) search, however Google does provide a link through to dictionary,
thesaurus and wikipedia entries for every search term. (Top right.) These
tend to be a lot more detailed than Encarta.
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Since: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 2384
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:35 am
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> i am noticing a lot more hits from MSN searches these days in my
> webstats. Also my sites seem to be getting heavily indexed by the
> msnbot daily. I checked it out and most of my keywords searches give
> similar results to google for my website. In a few months I don't see
> what competitive advantage google will have over MSN, or any other
> search engine. They all seem to be getting better and google will just
> be another player. I think I should go and short-sell some google
stock!
I have noticed the very same thing.
I see that Internet Explorer defaults to MSN, which must account for a
lot of it.
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Since: Nov 12, 2004 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:35 am
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Once upon a time *el_roachmeister@yahoo.com* wrote:
> i am noticing a lot more hits from MSN searches these days in my
> webstats. Also my sites seem to be getting heavily indexed by the
> msnbot daily. I checked it out and most of my keywords searches give
> similar results to google for my website. In a few months I don't see
> what competitive advantage google will have over MSN, or any other
> search engine. They all seem to be getting better and google will just
> be another player. I think I should go and short-sell some google stock!
>
Since I moved my "playground" site to a new ISP 4 weeks ago
( <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://hem.bredband.net/arnel/" target="_blank">http://hem.bredband.net/arnel/</a> ), I still see Google pointing all
searches to the old site with my previous ISP where it still is up,
but not updated.
Recently I find MSN Search as referer to the URL at my new ISP. MSN
was a very rare referer to the old URL. So I'll guess MSN was faster
to find my new URL. Still waiting for Google to find it
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Since: Apr 02, 2005 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:35 pm
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el_roachmeister.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote in news:1112421042.382933.294480
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
> i am noticing a lot more hits from MSN searches these days in my
> webstats. Also my sites seem to be getting heavily indexed by the
> msnbot daily. I checked it out and most of my keywords searches give
> similar results to google for my website. In a few months I don't see
> what competitive advantage google will have over MSN, or any other
> search engine. They all seem to be getting better and google will just
> be another player. I think I should go and short-sell some google stock!
>
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Since: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 154
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:35 pm
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rvd_mrppv wrote:
> How can I get my website listed with the msn search engine?
Send £250 by PayPal to the e-mail address mentioned on this page:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact" target="_blank">http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact</a>
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Since: Jun 13, 2004 Posts: 1064
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:35 pm
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Arne wrote:
> Once upon a time *el_roachmeister@yahoo.com* wrote:
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>> i am noticing a lot more hits from MSN searches these days in my
>> webstats. Also my sites seem to be getting heavily indexed by the
>> msnbot daily. I checked it out and most of my keywords searches give
>> similar results to google for my website. In a few months I don't see
>> what competitive advantage google will have over MSN, or any other
>> search engine. They all seem to be getting better and google will
>> just be another player. I think I should go and short-sell some
>> google stock!
>>
>
> Since I moved my "playground" site to a new ISP 4 weeks ago
> ( <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://hem.bredband.net/arnel/" target="_blank">http://hem.bredband.net/arnel/</a> ), I still see Google pointing all
> searches to the old site with my previous ISP where it still is up,
> but not updated.
>
> Recently I find MSN Search as referer to the URL at my new ISP. MSN
> was a very rare referer to the old URL. So I'll guess MSN was faster
> to find my new URL. Still waiting for Google to find it
You didnt set up 301 redirects? If not Google sees your site on the new ISP
as a new site and may never list it...If you had set up a 301 it would have
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Since: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 43
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:35 pm
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Since: Nov 05, 2003 Posts: 82
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:35 am
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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 21:25:24 GMT, "rvd_mrppv" <igrowdope DeleteThis @home.com>
wrote:
>el_roachmeister@yahoo.com wrote in news:1112421042.382933.294480
>@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
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>> i am noticing a lot more hits from MSN searches these days in my
>> webstats. Also my sites seem to be getting heavily indexed by the
>> msnbot daily. I checked it out and most of my keywords searches give
>> similar results to google for my website. In a few months I don't see
>> what competitive advantage google will have over MSN, or any other
>> search engine. They all seem to be getting better and google will just
>> be another player. I think I should go and short-sell some google stock!
>>
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>How can I get my website listed with the msn search engine?
Get a link to it from a site already in the index that is regularly
spidered.
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Since: Nov 05, 2003 Posts: 82
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:35 am
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 02:22:11 GMT, Don <smidon RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>On 02 Apr 2005 Toby Inkster wrote in alt.www.webmaster
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>> rvd_mrppv wrote:
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>>> How can I get my website listed with the msn search engine?
>>
>> Send £250 by PayPal to the e-mail address mentioned on this page:
<font color=green> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact</font" target="_blank">http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact</font</a>>
>>
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>Ok, money sent... Why do I hear laughter
Because Toby forgot he only has NOCHEX.
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Since: Nov 05, 2003 Posts: 82
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:35 am
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 02:01:51 +0100, Toby Inkster
<usenet200504.DeleteThis@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote:
>rvd_mrppv wrote:
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>> How can I get my website listed with the msn search engine?
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>Send £250 by PayPal to the e-mail address mentioned on this page:
>http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
Or that.
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Since: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 154
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:35 am
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Viper wrote:
> You didnt set up 301 redirects? If not Google sees your site on the new
> ISP as a new site and may never list it...If you had set up a 301 it
> would have found it by now.
And further, it would transfer all your old PageRank to the new one.
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Since: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 2384
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:35 am
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Toby Inkster wrote
> Viper wrote:
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>> You didnt set up 301 redirects? If not Google sees your site on the new
>> ISP as a new site and may never list it...If you had set up a 301 it
>> would have found it by now.
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> And further, it would transfer all your old PageRank to the new one.
Then pour you a beer, and give you a blow-job.
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Since: Sep 19, 2003 Posts: 3499
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:35 am
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On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 10:44:20 +0100, Charles Sweeney
<me DeleteThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote:
> Toby Inkster wrote
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>> Viper wrote:
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>>> You didnt set up 301 redirects? If not Google sees your site on the new
>>> ISP as a new site and may never list it...If you had set up a 301 it
>>> would have found it by now.
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>> And further, it would transfer all your old PageRank to the new one.
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> Then pour you a beer, and give you a blow-job.
>
ok - so now you have my attention
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Since: Nov 12, 2004 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:35 am
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Once upon a time *Viper* wrote:
> Arne wrote:
>> Once upon a time *el_roachmeister@yahoo.com* wrote:
>>
>>> i am noticing a lot more hits from MSN searches these days in my
>>> webstats. Also my sites seem to be getting heavily indexed by the
>>> msnbot daily. I checked it out and most of my keywords searches give
>>> similar results to google for my website. In a few months I don't see
>>> what competitive advantage google will have over MSN, or any other
>>> search engine. They all seem to be getting better and google will
>>> just be another player. I think I should go and short-sell some
>>> google stock!
>>>
>>
>> Since I moved my "playground" site to a new ISP 4 weeks ago
>> ( <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://hem.bredband.net/arnel/" target="_blank">http://hem.bredband.net/arnel/</a> ), I still see Google pointing all
>> searches to the old site with my previous ISP where it still is up,
>> but not updated.
>>
>> Recently I find MSN Search as referer to the URL at my new ISP. MSN
>> was a very rare referer to the old URL. So I'll guess MSN was faster
>> to find my new URL. Still waiting for Google to find it
>
> You didnt set up 301 redirects? If not Google sees your site on the new ISP
> as a new site and may never list it...If you had set up a 301 it would have
> found it by now.
>
>
As I said, it's my "playground" site (for fun and for testing things)
so i'm not worred about it. No need for redirects (have no access to
the old page either any more) an no need for PR either
And this is one of my tests, I want to see how long it takes to get
listed for a new site with non or very little "help". It took about
three months for the same site on my old ISP server. My participation
in this thread was only to the fact that MSN was able to find it
faster than Google this time, and that was a suprise
Talking about PR, I don't give much for that when it comes to sites
with content in other languages than English. Especially for a small
language as Swedish (that only about aprox 10 - 12 million people
understand) there is no chance to get high PR.
I understand that e.g. sites for English speaking peoples don't have
much to offer their English speaking visitors by linking to a site
with content only in a language they don't understand
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