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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:20 pm
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How can I learn to diagnose network problems? I'm sophisticated enough
to do a trace route, but that's all; I don't know how to interpret it,
nor how to follow it to a conclusion. Is there any good source of
information out there for people who need to diagnose network problems?
Any good books?

I work for a large corporation, and I have management responsibility
for one of many corporate websites. On several occasions, I have found
that my website is inaccessible from our local office (I receive the
error "Cannot find server or DNS Error"), but is accessible to the
world at large. I consider this to be a serious problem; our IT
department does not. If I want to figure out what's going on,
therefore, I'm on my own. I'm hoping to find a procedure which will
tell me how to pinpoint the problem (or, failing that, a good
consultant).

Any advice?

-TC

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:08 am
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JMC & Ben,

Thank you for the advice. The next time this problem appears, I'll
attack it with the ideas you suggested.

JMC: My website is the only one I've observed to be affected. The
server is offsite. By the way, I didn't mean to give a bad impression
of our IT guys -- they are great guys, and they do care, but they are
overworked.

Ben: I'm using Windows. I'll try nslookup.


-TC

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:55 am
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howdy TC,

>> Is there any good source of
>> information out there for people who need to diagnose network
>> problems? Any good books?
>>


there are tons of them. i'd recommend starting with O'Reilly's TCP/IP
Network Administration. continuously revised since the stone ages, it's
the UNIX foundation you need to truly understand, not just be a M$
monkey. i can tell you what chapters to read and what to ignore if you
supply me with an updated table of contents.

>> I work for a large corporation,


sorry bro.

>> I have found
>> that my website is inaccessible from our local office (I receive the
>> error "Cannot find server or DNS Error"), but is accessible to the
>> world at large.

OK, so your problem is where? in the local office.

>> I'm hoping to find a procedure which will
>> tell me how to pinpoint the problem

it's a bit like asking us to teach you karate in one easy session, but
what you have to quickly do is isolate the level the problem exists at.
you need certain information about the environments you are treating
first like gateway addresses, DNS addresses, POP, SMTP, it doesn't hurt
to have a spreadsheet of IP-MAC-Cname addresses on your networks.

but anyway, let's start with the problem computer/user. Can they surf?
No? Do the rest of the services work? Can they email? No? What happens
when they ping a well-known address like Sony.com. Does it resolve to a
numerical IP? No? Host not found? DNS is down. Can their neighbor surf?
If so, their computer has the problem.

Now you have to be ready to diagnose local IP settings. Windows machines
will defult to the 192.168.x.x convention with a plain-Jane netmask of
255.255.x.x if it doesn't find a DHCP server (if configured to pull
DHCP), a dead givaway. there are other things such as hosts files but
let's stay simple here.

Neighbor can't surf either? OK, can they ping their inside gateway or
the machine next to them? No? Tell them to make sure the hub is plugged
in. They can ping the machine next to them but not the gateway inside
address? Gee, the problem is at the gateway/router level. Can you ping
their gateway outside address? No? Can you ping their ISP? Start with
the ISP and work back towards the gateway or vice-versa. it's process of
elimanation, common sense once you have the basic tools. now having
identified the device or service, how to treat it's going to take a lot
more books for you to read.

assuming you are treating Window$ machines, start->run->cmd is your
basic tool. ipconfig, ping, tracert are your three basic commands.
Window$ keeps renaming them so your distribution is practically
gauranteed to call them something different, but any Window$ machine
well give you command help with the /? switch.

>> (or, failing that, a good
>> consultant).

it's tough to compress things into some paragraphs, but hopefully i gave
you the idea. i can sniff out network issues like a bloodhound. i enjoy
it. i know what those 3:00 AM panic calls are like. i also know what
it's like to have an overworked IT staff who care.
salesATdatasphericDOTcom.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:55 am
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Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the magook's cooks cafeteria
trevor <not.TakeThisOut@your.house> said:

> howdy TC,
>
>>> Is there any good source of
>>> information out there for people who need to diagnose network
>>> problems? Any good books?
>
> there are tons of them. i'd recommend starting with O'Reilly's TCP/IP
> Network Administration.

<aol>Seconded</>

> continuously revised since the stone ages, it's
> the UNIX foundation you need to truly understand, not just be a M$
> monkey.

well - here's my take on that ... back in the day I read my way through
the unix and windows versions of the O'Reilly network admin books - really
helped me to distinguish between o/s implementations and basic tcp/ip
principles. Was an important issue for me at the time as the system I was
responsible for had no documentation other than that supplied by the
manufacturer and of course it was the usual (at the time) mix of a variety
of systems, devices all with their own quirks and foibles.

It's a lot easier to learn new implementations (regardless of platform) if
you already have a grasp of IP networking.

--
William Tasso

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:55 pm
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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked RemoveThis @tbdata.com> wrote in
news:op.sxf0zumcm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:

> It's a lot easier to learn new implementations (regardless of
> platform) if you already have a grasp of IP networking.

yeah. and acres of users going wah wah wah and field offices in 27 nations
going wahski or wahabannana or oi-wah or wahoo. schooled me up pretty good.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:19 pm
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Okay everyone, I've finally had the opportunity to put your advice into
practice. The website VeecoProbes.com has been inaccessible from the
office for at least three hours. In that time, I've used the diagnostic
tools suggested, and I've narrowed down the problem to a name server
called giza.int.veeco.com. When I issue the command "nslookup
veecoprobes.com" I get the following message:

Server: giza.int.veeco.com
Address 10.101.1.10
DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
*** Request to giza.int.veeco.com timed-out

Unfortunately, I don't know how to go any further. What is the next
step in diagnosing a problem with a name server?


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