Internet Explorer will stop pop-ups next year!

"Jeffrey" <jeff DeleteThis @anderson.mail.com> wrote in message
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 > Finally, Internet Explorer will stop Pop-up ads! Microsoft plans to
 > add pop-up blocking features to Internet Explorer next year. Read
 > news:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font" target="_blank">http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font</a>>
 >
 > Jeff

Won't advertisers quickly find a way around whatever blocking method is
implemented?
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Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
 > "Jeffrey" <jeff.RemoveThis@anderson.mail.com> wrote in message
 > news:fnFsb.30409$IZ.15886@nntp-post.primus.ca
  >> Finally, Internet Explorer will stop Pop-up ads! Microsoft plans to
  >> add pop-up blocking features to Internet Explorer next year. Read
  >> news:
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font" target="_blank">http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font</a>>
 >
 > Won't advertisers quickly find a way around whatever blocking method
 > is implemented?

an escalating war of attrition? yep, they'll have to go back to more
traditional technology
o Putting ads *on* the page.
o SE spamming
o Usenet spamming

or breaking new ground, for example the belkin router debacle[1]. Why was
the Belkin issue such a problem? Surely they're doing no more than Opera
does[2] with their browser until you pay the licence. And that's the
answer, Opera deliver the free version clearly stating their will be ads
until the licence is paid. The Belkin approach, however, was underhand,
sneaky and generally foul.

Now, I'd be happy to discuss the advertising issue with anyone who wants to
provide a free dsl connection or router or server or even the odd
workstation. WHY.

If reading/watching ads has a value then I'd like some of it - thank you.

How about a tie in with the xp licensing model - x number of ads = 1 licence
point. x licence points = software licence. Perhaps some other
subscription services could be encouraged to take payment from third
parties; I'd be happy to take payment that way for hosting/domain services;
gsm subscriptions; TV licence fees.

Remember children, points means prizes.

Toodle-pip.

[1] <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://theregister.com/content/69/33858.html" target="_blank">http://theregister.com/content/69/33858.html</a>
[2] ok - it's little different.
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With a blatant disregard for public safety, jeff.DeleteThis@anderson.mail.com
thrust upon this group:
 > Finally, Internet Explorer will stop Pop-up ads! Microsoft plans to add
 > pop-up blocking features to Internet Explorer next year. Read news:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font" target="_blank">http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font</a>>
 >
 > Jeff

Crazy. Kooky. Nutty.
Too bad Google Toolbar for IE already does it.



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 > Crazy. Kooky. Nutty.
 > Too bad Google Toolbar for IE already does it.

Problem there is the Google toolbar does take up valuable and scarce
screen space.
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:39:31 GMT "Red E. Kilowatt"
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RoadRunner - West to write:

 >"Jeffrey" <jeff RemoveThis @anderson.mail.com> wrote in message
 >news:fnFsb.30409$IZ.15886@nntp-post.primus.ca
  >> Finally, Internet Explorer will stop Pop-up ads! Microsoft plans to
  >> add pop-up blocking features to Internet Explorer next year. Read
  >> news:
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font" target="_blank">http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font</a>>
  >>
  >> Jeff
 >
 >Won't advertisers quickly find a way around whatever blocking method is
 >implemented?

Either that or useful sites (like a certain encyclopaedia) will go
bust and close down. Or perhaps sites will charge for access, and the
web will become a mess of disinformation and company home pages.

Advertising keeps information 'free', it's not an evil in itself (not
aiming this at anyone in particular).

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Matt Probert wrote:
 > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:39:31 GMT "Red E. Kilowatt"
 > <rekilowatt RemoveThis @aww-faq.org> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at
 > RoadRunner - West to write:

  >> Won't advertisers quickly find a way around whatever blocking method
  >> is implemented?
 >
 > Either that or useful sites (like a certain encyclopaedia) will go
 > bust and close down. Or perhaps sites will charge for access, and the
 > web will become a mess of disinformation and company home pages.
 >
 > Advertising keeps information 'free', it's not an evil in itself (not
 > aiming this at anyone in particular).

Free hint: banner ads.
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Matt Probert wrote:

 > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:39:31 GMT "Red E. Kilowatt"
 > <rekilowatt.DeleteThis@aww-faq.org> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at
 > RoadRunner - West to write:
 >
 >
  >>"Jeffrey" <jeff.DeleteThis@anderson.mail.com> wrote in message
  >>news:fnFsb.30409$IZ.15886@nntp-post.primus.ca
  >>
   >>>Finally, Internet Explorer will stop Pop-up ads! Microsoft plans to
   >>>add pop-up blocking features to Internet Explorer next year. Read
   >>>news:
   >>>
   >>>http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up
   >>>
   >>>Jeff
  >>
  >>Won't advertisers quickly find a way around whatever blocking method is
  >>implemented?
 >
 >
 > Either that or useful sites (like a certain encyclopaedia) will go
 > bust and close down. Or perhaps sites will charge for access, and the
 > web will become a mess of disinformation and company home pages.
 >
 > Advertising keeps information 'free', it's not an evil in itself (not
 > aiming this at anyone in particular).

I've actually thought about this alot over the years. My biggest gripe
is that advertising is an acceptable alternative to information in
modern society ('cept maybe the outback and a few African villages).
I've been warning my fellow baby boomers for years that "infomercials
are not educational tv" but they don't believe me.

I also came to terms with the fact that commercial advertising built the
internet into what it is today, for good and bad. The online business
model has de-evolved from medium/portal to a brick and morter commercial
effort ... to what we know it is now: a cyber post box for anyone who
can talk another out of a dollar.

Then again, we've got all these dollars to spend and the internet has
made it easy to do so without effort or much thought. Like it? Click
it. Remember, kiddies, it's not a bargain if you don't need it

The only acceptable use of ecommerce, IMO, is for the distribution of
digital merchandise or services, like your encyclopaedia. When it comes
to articles and help sites, I think it's just plain nasty to charge a
one-off or subscription fee. Information wants to be free and it will
be. The internet is one great big "steal this book."

Generating income from site traffic opens another whole can of worms.
If we were all ethical and considerate, it wouldn't be a problem or an
intrusion. Alas, we all know how this opportunity has been exploited
and we don't like to be tricked. Blocking popups/unders/arounds has
become a necessary form of self-protection for many of us, including
myself. I let Norton do it for me and I can use any browser I like.

Phuck IE.

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rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski wrote:

 > Matt Probert wrote:
 >
  >>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:39:31 GMT "Red E. Kilowatt"
  >><rekilowatt RemoveThis @aww-faq.org> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at
  >>RoadRunner - West to write:
 >
 >
   >>>Won't advertisers quickly find a way around whatever blocking method
   >>>is implemented?
  >>
  >>Either that or useful sites (like a certain encyclopaedia) will go
  >>bust and close down. Or perhaps sites will charge for access, and the
  >>web will become a mess of disinformation and company home pages.
  >>
  >>Advertising keeps information 'free', it's not an evil in itself (not
  >>aiming this at anyone in particular).
 >
 >
 > Free hint: banner ads.

I can live with banner ads. I like side ads, like on google. If a
sponsor is worthy, I'll pay a visit ... if it's the usual shite, it
reflects on the webmaster who hosts it. That's pretty simple, isn't it?

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rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski wrote:

 > "Karl Groves" <karlTHEOBVIOUS.RemoveThis@karlcore.com> wrote in message
 > news:MPG.1a1dd83741407fa1989681@news.compuserve.com...
 >
 >
  >>Crazy. Kooky. Nutty.
  >>Too bad Google Toolbar for IE already does it.
 >
 >
 > Problem there is the Google toolbar does take up valuable and scarce
 > screen space.

Darn, I was going to say that's what grippies are for, but just checked
and IE doesn't have them either.

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With a blatant disregard for public safety,
rfgdxm RemoveThis @KILLSPAMMERSmochamail.com thrust upon this group:
 > "Karl Groves" <karlTHEOBVIOUS RemoveThis @karlcore.com> wrote in message
 > news:MPG.1a1dd83741407fa1989681@news.compuserve.com...
 >
  > > Crazy. Kooky. Nutty.
  > > Too bad Google Toolbar for IE already does it.
 >
 > Problem there is the Google toolbar does take up valuable and scarce
 > screen space.
 >

IMO, it is taken up with things that have value. At home I use
Firebird, but at work, we're forced to use IE. I use that toolbar so
much that I'm not worried about the 30 vertical pixels it takes up.

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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked DeleteThis @tbdata.com> wrote in message
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 > Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
  > > "Jeffrey" <jeff DeleteThis @anderson.mail.com> wrote in message
  > > news:fnFsb.30409$IZ.15886@nntp-post.primus.ca
   > >> Finally, Internet Explorer will stop Pop-up ads! Microsoft plans to
   > >> add pop-up blocking features to Internet Explorer next year. Read
   > >> news:
   > >>
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font" target="_blank">http://go.jitbot.com/ie_ends_pop-up</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Won't advertisers quickly find a way around whatever blocking method
  > > is implemented?
 >
 > How about a tie in with the xp licensing model - x number of ads = 1
licence
 > point. x licence points = software licence. Perhaps some other
 > subscription services could be encouraged to take payment from third
 > parties; I'd be happy to take payment that way for hosting/domain
services;
 > gsm subscriptions; TV licence fees.
 >
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In article <3fb3e619 RemoveThis @clear.net.nz>, who RemoveThis @what.com, a.k.a Bill Logan
says...


 > Wots a T.V. licence fee? Do they really exist?

It's a fee UK residents are obliged to pay if they own a television.
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 > In article <3fb3e619 DeleteThis @clear.net.nz>, who DeleteThis @what.com, a.k.a Bill Logan
 > says...
 >
 >
  > > Wots a T.V. licence fee? Do they really exist?
 >
 > It's a fee UK residents are obliged to pay if they own a television.
 > It funds the BBC.

He knows that. He's reminding us (rubbing it in!) that New Zealanders get
theirs for free!
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