Including Files--PHP or Perl?

Bill M. wrote:

 > Instead I'd like to have a function in PHP or CGI/Perl known as INCLUDE
 > to have the file containing the chunk of CSS-HTML code dynamically
 > inserted into each web page as it is invoked. Do I understand this
 > correctly? Can this be done?

Yes, although your server will have to support it.

 > Here's what I've found for CGI-Perl -- haven't gotten this to work:
 > <!--#include file="some_code.html"-->
 > or
 > <!--#include virtual="some_code.html"-->

This is SSI, not Perl.

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"Bill M." <beelymagee.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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 > Here's what I've found for PHP -- haven't gotten this to work:
 > <?php
 > include some_code.inc;
 > ?>

You need to make sure PHP is supported on your server. Also in most cases
the file the code is contained in will have to have a .php extension. The
extension of the file you are including is not important. However it's best
to keep it as .html (not .inc) for consistency. If you want the included
file to also have included files this needs to be .php extension too

Also make sure you use the correct syntax
e.g.
<?php
include("some_code.html");
?>



 > Here's what I've found for CGI-Perl -- haven't gotten this to work:
 > <!--#include file="some_code.html"-->
 > or
 > <!--#include virtual="some_code.html"-->
 >
 > Anybody done anything like this? I'd appreciate a few pointers, any and
 > all help.

That is Server Side Includes, it's nothing whatever to do with Perl.

Your code looks fine there. However just like PHP you have to make sure that
SSI is supported on your server. Plus again you often have to change the
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Viper wrote:
 > Bill M. wrote:
  >>Here's what I've found for PHP -- haven't gotten this to work:
  >><?php
  >> include some_code.inc;
 >
 > Here is what I use in my PHP pages
 > <? include("account_menu.php");?>
 >
 > in the account_menu.php is plain HTML

If it's just plain HTML, you could also use readfile(),
<http://www.php.net/readfile>. This way the server won't waste valuable
nanoseconds trying to evaluate the specified file.


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Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
 > Viper wrote:
  >> Bill M. wrote:
   >>> Here's what I've found for PHP -- haven't gotten this to work:
   >>> <?php
   >>> include some_code.inc;
  >>
  >> Here is what I use in my PHP pages
  >> <? include("account_menu.php");?>
  >>
  >> in the account_menu.php is plain HTML
 >
 > If it's just plain HTML, you could also use readfile(),
 > <http://www.php.net/readfile>. This way the server won't waste
 > valuable nanoseconds trying to evaluate the specified file.
 >
 >
 > Matthias

Well its a site that runs a script I bought and thats how they set it up.. I
do see a few <? inboxcount();?> in the file so its not all HTML as I
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Toby,

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:14:02 +0100
Toby A Inkster <tobyink RemoveThis @goddamn.co.uk> wrote:

 > Bill M. wrote:
 >
  > > Here's what I've found for CGI-Perl -- haven't gotten this to work:
  > > <!--#include file="some_code.html"-->
  > > or
  > > <!--#include virtual="some_code.html"-->
 >
 > This is SSI, not Perl.

OK - thanks for the clarification. Aside from that, do you feel you have
a response about my issue posted?

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:55:22 -0700
"Bill M." <beelymagee.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote:

Here's some php code to see output. I'm using php 4.3.3 (from a php,
MySQL, Apache book CD.) I have Apache2 (not sure what sub-version it
is) and it's started via "apachectl start" I'm getting odd output from
this(see below):

<html>
<head>
<title>Testing INCLUDE command</title>
</head>
<body>
<p> Here's some text to show that this PHP file is working ...</p>
<?php
  echo "<BR />";
  echo "<BR />";
  echo "<h1>Here is some other text ECHOed from the PHP command
file</h1>";
  if (file_exists("navMenus.php")) {
   echo "<h3>The Navigation Menus file exists according to
PHP!</h3>"; }
  if (is_readable("navMenus.php")) {
   echo "<h3>An the Navigation Menus file is READable to
boot!</h3>"; }
?>

<? include("navMenus.php"); ?>

</body>
</html>

Here's the output (in Opera 7.51 Linux) from the above:

Here's some text to show that this PHP file is working ...
"; echo "
"; echo "
Here is some other text ECHOed from the PHP command file
if (file_exists("navMenus.php")) { echo "
The Navigation Menus file exists according to PHP!
"; } if (is_readable("navMenus.php")) { echo "
An the Navigation Menus file is READable to boot!
"; } ?>

I still don't get any output from the navMenus.php file - PHP sez the
file exists and is readable.

I changed the above ECHO commands to PRINT in the hope that it would
remove the "; echo " gibberish - no change. The HTML headers(<h1, h3>)
came out formatted as expected. I saw mention of the READFILE()
command (thanks, Mathias!) - I may play with that to see if that is a
better solution.

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Mark Hewitt wrote:

 > If you want the included file to also have included files this needs to
 > be .php extension too

No it doesn't.

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Viper, Matthias, Mark, and Toby

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 04:06:33 -0400
"Viper" <venomx RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

 >
 > Here is what I use in my PHP pages
 > <? include("account_menu.php");?>
 >
 > in the account_menu.php is plain HTML

I wanted to thank you all for your responses --corrections and
suggestions. All of them are much appreciated. I haven't been able to
get the INCLUDE command to work yet in php nor SSI, but will be looking
at trying the commands to read from the file.

-*-Bill

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Bill M. wrote:

 > Here's some php code to see output. I'm using php 4.3.3 (from a php,
 > MySQL, Apache book CD.) I have Apache2

Go to this page:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://localhost/server-info" target="_blank">http://localhost/server-info</a>

Is mod_php4 listed near the top?

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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:29:41 -0700, Bill M. wrote:

 ><html>
 ><head>
 ><title>Testing INCLUDE command</title>
 ></head>
 ><body>
 ><p> Here's some text to show that this PHP file is working ...</p>
 ><?php
  > echo "<BR />";
  > echo "<BR />";
  > echo "<h1>Here is some other text ECHOed from the PHP command
 >file</h1>";
  > if (file_exists("navMenus.php")) {
   > echo "<h3>The Navigation Menus file exists according to
 >PHP!</h3>"; }
  > if (is_readable("navMenus.php")) {
   > echo "<h3>An the Navigation Menus file is READable to
 >boot!</h3>"; }
 >?>
 >
 ><? include("navMenus.php"); ?>
 >
 ></body>
 ></html>
 >
 >Here's the output (in Opera 7.51 Linux) from the above:
 >
 >Here's some text to show that this PHP file is working ...
 >"; echo "
 >"; echo "
 >Here is some other text ECHOed from the PHP command file
 >if (file_exists("navMenus.php")) { echo "
 >The Navigation Menus file exists according to PHP!
 >"; } if (is_readable("navMenus.php")) { echo "
 >An the Navigation Menus file is READable to boot!
 >"; } ?>

It's not running the script as php so you have a configuration problem
in Apache. Have you given your script the .php extension? That's
usually the default but it can be configured to run php in htm and/or
html files although that's not my preferred way since it means it has
to look for php code in every htm(l) file.

I'd check that you are loading the PHP module in your Apache httpd.conf
and that you have

AddType application/x-httpd-php .php

in there as well if you are using the .php extension.

If you want more help you are welcome to email me.

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Bill M. wrote:
 >
 > Viper, Matthias, Mark, and Toby
 >
 > On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 04:06:33 -0400
 > "Viper" <venomx.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
 >
  > >
  > > Here is what I use in my PHP pages
  > > <? include("account_menu.php");?>
  > >
  > > in the account_menu.php is plain HTML
 >
 > I wanted to thank you all for your responses --corrections and
 > suggestions. All of them are much appreciated. I haven't been able to
 > get the INCLUDE command to work yet in php nor SSI, but will be looking
 > at trying the commands to read from the file.
 >
 > -*-Bill
 >
 > Windows has detected that your mouse has moved,
 > please wait while Windows reboots for your changes to take effect.

Bill,

You may have a problem with your file extensions.

The default extension for files with SSI is generally .shtml, and for
files containing PHP it's .php (sometimes also .php3 and php4) and is
case sensitive.

This can be overridden in your Apache configuration (and possibly with
..htaccess - I haven't tried). But if you coded the extension as .html
it won't work unless you change your configuration.

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