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JennyLin

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:55 am
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"dp" <noreplyhere RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I find that this ng has a higher noise to signal ratio that most technical
> groups.

As a newbie looking for help, this noise is why I chose to post here Smile
I read though many threads to begin with looking for answers and also to get
the feel of the group.
The relaxed nature of the postings and obvious sense of humour by most gave
me the confidence to post my basic/uninteresting questions.

> Once a thread's gone past 10 posts or so it starts getting futile to
> follow it any longer if you're after information.

Yep once the work is complete the idle banter begins, but is this not normal
every day sort of thing.
If not your meetings etc must be extremely boring Smile

> Sometimes I feel like the ng should be called alt.www.flirting or
> alt.www.one-up.

Idle banter, you read too much into it Smile

>
> That being said, when you can find technical content, it's useful,
> thorough, and well argued out.

It is absolutely brilliant and throughout this news group.

> The noise however prevents me from giving this group out to people looking
> for technical reference sources.

Not on, this group is a friendly group full of excellent knowledge and
although I have not been posting I have been reading, learning and smiling
and the latter we all need to do from time to time.

To the regulars, thanks for your time and every perl of wisdom you empart, I
for one have learnt heaps and hope to cont. doing so

Cheers
Jenny

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Mickey~

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:55 am
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JennyLin wrote:

>"dp" <noreplyhere.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:M9nSe.4028$v83.2208@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
>
>
>
>>I find that this ng has a higher noise to signal ratio that most technical
>>groups.
>>
>>
>
>As a newbie looking for help, this noise is why I chose to post here Smile
>I read though many threads to begin with looking for answers and also to get
>the feel of the group.
>The relaxed nature of the postings and obvious sense of humour by most gave
>me the confidence to post my basic/uninteresting questions.
>
>
>
>>Once a thread's gone past 10 posts or so it starts getting futile to
>>follow it any longer if you're after information.
>>
>>
>
>Yep once the work is complete the idle banter begins, but is this not normal
>every day sort of thing.
>If not your meetings etc must be extremely boring Smile
>
>
>
>>Sometimes I feel like the ng should be called alt.www.flirting or
>>alt.www.one-up.
>>
>>
>
>Idle banter, you read too much into it Smile
>
>
>
>>That being said, when you can find technical content, it's useful,
>>thorough, and well argued out.
>>
>>
>
>It is absolutely brilliant and throughout this news group.
>
>
>
>>The noise however prevents me from giving this group out to people looking
>>for technical reference sources.
>>
>>
>
>Not on, this group is a friendly group full of excellent knowledge and
>although I have not been posting I have been reading, learning and smiling
>and the latter we all need to do from time to time.
>
>To the regulars, thanks for your time and every perl of wisdom you empart, I
>for one have learnt heaps and hope to cont. doing so
>
>Cheers
>Jenny
>
>
>
>
>
>
I've been lurking but can second what you have to say about this group. Smile

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Red E. Kilowatt

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:55 am
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"Dylan Parry" <usenet DeleteThis @dylanparry.com> wrote in message
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> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, SpaceGirl scraped:
>
>>> Sadly it's true. There are a number of (ex)regulars whom I miss.
>>
>> Like... who?
>
> Red is the only one I miss that was bullied out,

I'm still around. Mostly lurking though. I'm content to read the group a
couple times a week and make the occasional irreverent remarks.

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Red E. Kilowatt

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:55 am
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"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol.RemoveThis@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
>
>> I'm still around. Mostly lurking though. I'm content to read the
>> group a couple times a week and make the occasional irreverent
>> remarks.
>
> I parsed that as "the occasional irrelevant remarks."

That too. Smile
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JennyLin

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:55 am
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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups DeleteThis @schestowitz.com> wrote in message
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> __/ [JennyLin] on Sunday 04 September 2005 05:07 \__

>
> Jenny, there is a bit of a subculture here in the Web-related newsgroups.
> AWW is the 'hipper' way of referring to alt.www.webmaster and CIWAH refers
> to comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html. That group has very good
> 'signal-to-noise', but it depends on whether you look for a 'watercooler
> newsgroup' or a newsgroup that focuses on effective answers. I still like
> this newsgroup. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html can become very boring
> and it has little of no 'communal feel'.

Thanks Roy,
I found it.

Jenny
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spamblocked1

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:55 pm
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Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the LocusMeus.com cafeteria
Els <els.aNOSPAM.RemoveThis@tiscali.nl> said:

> Toby Inkster wrote:
>
>> Els wrote:
>>
>>> What kind of food would go with cider?
>> ...
>> Or a steak & kidney pie with chips.
>
> Without the kidney for me please :\

Then, perhaps the Liver & Bacon served with mash & peas would be more to
madam's taste.

In fact I cannot think of any traditionally English meal that is not
enhanced by an appropriate choice of Cider.

Bon apetite.

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Carol W

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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:55 pm
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:22:12 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups RemoveThis @schestowitz.com> wrote:

>__/ [Toby Inkster] on Saturday 03 September 2005 08:41 \__
>
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> It quickly slides into non-technical issues and dialogues that are hard
>>> to follow.
>>
>> No point in turning this group into another alt.html. We already have
>> alt.html for that.
>
>Yes, but HTML <> Webmaster.

Depends. Some webmasters don't do the HTML but work on other
components within the site. Some webmasters only do/use HTML and not
anything else. Then you have webmasters who seek out new content ideas
for those sites - which some of the conversations on this NG can/may
inspire. Webmaster can be a broad term ...

That doesn't mean this group has to be another HTML or "all techie,all
the time" group.

<personal view>
I cut back even lurking in a couple of the 'technical' groups due to
them becoming increasing colder, in my opinion. Some good advice still
shared in those groups ... but ... I just don't enjoy their atmosphere
any more.. A shame actually as I lurked/sometimes posted in a few of
them over the past *mumble* years.
</personal view>

>I am still reluctant to get involved in threads,
>which in this newsgroup can go on for a very long time, even when not
>labelled [OT].

Your option as some people simply do not enjoy long threads or
non-technical discussions mixed in with technical ones.

I enjoy those threads which has this group a bit more welcoming and
rounded out in atmosphere. Even with my current online time
limitations I regularly download this group's and one other NG's
posts to enjoy with a fresh pot of coffee. Can those threads get out
of hand from time to time? Sure - happens, in a different way, on the
technical groups. *shrug*

Not every NG with a technical term somehow in its name has to try
being "technical discussions only". Wink

I find it enjoyable to let my (short) hair down while reading and
enjoying techie discussions. You may notice I do that also in another
group you mentioned also enjoying .. that atmosphere can be atmosphere
can be casual and having threads dwindle to off-topic bantering
between people - although I admit most of those threads do not go on
for weeks but some have been revisited by creating new threads to
reference back to those prior discussions/debates/et al ... so, in a
way, can go on for months.

>I respect everyone else's preference, which evidently is
>>largely different than mine.

It would be a dull world if everyone and every group was expected to
fit into the same mold - in my personal opinion. Something to set
yourself or a group apart from others isn't a bad thing. After all,
don't webmasters try to give tsites individuality to help those be
different from other sites on the web?

>Like I said, this message did not embrace the
>offence.

Carol
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JennyLin

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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:55 pm
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"Alan Little" <alan DeleteThis @n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> wrote in message
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> Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
> JennyLin of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
>
>> To the regulars, thanks for your time and every perl of wisdom
>
> Hey, what about the PHPs of wisdom?

My new online acronymfinder tells me that means:
PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor (HTML-embedded scripting language)

So isnt this all the same thing?

Jenny
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:55 pm
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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:30:40 +1200, "JennyLin"
<jcaughey.TakeThisOut@quicksilver.net.nz> wrote:

>
>"Alan Little" <alan.TakeThisOut@n-o-s-p-a-m-phorm.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns96C763956183Ealanphormcom@216.196.97.131...
>> Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of
>> JennyLin of alt.www.webmaster make plain:
>>
>>> To the regulars, thanks for your time and every perl of wisdom
>>
>> Hey, what about the PHPs of wisdom?
>
>My new online acronymfinder tells me that means:
> PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor (HTML-embedded scripting language)
>
>So isnt this all the same thing?
>
>Jenny
>

It's a joke. Perl and PHP are "rival" (like Venus and Serena)
languages.

Matt
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:55 am
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Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the cafeteria
Dylan Parry <usenet RemoveThis @dylanparry.com> said:

> I had no idea of its existence.

Then it doesn't exist.

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(Msg. 41) Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:55 am
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Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the LocusMeus.com cafeteria
Els <els.aNOSPAM RemoveThis @tiscali.nl> said:

> William Tasso wrote:
>
>> Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
>> From the safety of the cafeteria
>> Dylan Parry <usenet RemoveThis @dylanparry.com> said:
>>
>>> I had no idea of its existence.
>>
>> Then it doesn't exist.
>
> Correction: it /didn't/ exist.

you think it still exists because it briefly enjoyed the limelight of
existence? I think not and I'm grateful for it to be so - this[1] world
would be even more cluttered than it is now if everything lasted forever.

[1] specifically /this/ world - I have no idea about /that/ world.
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Red E. Kilowatt

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(Msg. 42) Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:55 pm
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"Blinky the Shark" <no.spam.DeleteThis@box.invalid> wrote in message
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> Red E. Kilowatt wrote:
>> "Dylan Parry" <usenet.DeleteThis@dylanparry.com> wrote in message
>> news:3nrgavF2ohmuU2@individual.net
>>> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, SpaceGirl scraped:
>>>
>>>>> Sadly it's true. There are a number of (ex)regulars whom I miss.
>>>>
>>>> Like... who?
>>>
>>> Red is the only one I miss that was bullied out,
>>
>> I'm still around. Mostly lurking though. I'm content to read the
>> group a couple times a week and make the occasional irreverent
>> remarks.
>
> It's been a while. I think you owe us several. Smile

I'll get right on it. ;-o
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