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Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the cafeteria
Dylan Parry <usenet DeleteThis @dylanparry.com> said:

> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, Baho Utot scraped:
>
>> You know you should really set the sticky bit on that don't you?
>
> Don't touch the sticky bits! You don't know where they've been.

Don't stick the touchy bits because of the converse.

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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:42:43 +0100, PHPGB
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><alt.www.webmaster , Matt Probert , comments.DeleteThis@probertencyclopaedia.com>
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><Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:08:04 GMT>
>
>> >What I describe in this message is my honest opinion, which you may respect
>> >at some level or simply be annoyed by. Either way, I am fairly certain that
>> >a few (a minority at least) will nod and at the same time consider it to be
>> >heresy.
>>
>> I concur with you fully.
>>
>> This group has become more clique than a English rural village fete.
>>
>
>As you know matt i've never been one to say things for the sole purpose
>of gaining friends or influence - but would you say it was any worse
>than most other web authoring groups .

No, I shouldn't say it was any worse. Rather, I'd say the other web
authoring groups are more clique, more aggressive, and less friendly.

>
>- only say negative stuff about IE
>
>- if a clique member posts a url the others say super / great
>
>etc etc
>
>
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 09:59:55 -0400, GreyWyvern <spam.DeleteThis@greywyvern.com>
wrote:

>And lo, PHPGB didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>> As you know matt i've never been one to say things for the sole purpose
>> of gaining friends or influence - but would you say it was any worse
>> than most other web authoring groups .
>>
>> - only say negative stuff about IE
>>
>> - if a clique member posts a url the others say super / great
>
>If it bothers you, there's a simple solution, you know...
>
>> etc etc
>
>Isn't there a small, developing nation you're supposed to be leading a
>rebellion in? You really shouldn't keep your people waiting.
>
>Grey

You are having a laugh, aren't you Grey?

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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:46:08 +0100, Dylan Parry
<usenet RemoveThis @dylanparry.com> wrote:

>Exactly. AWW is more like the Webmasters' coffee machine/water
>cooler/smoking room. A place to discuss things that aren't necessarily
>non-technical, but with a more relaxed and friendly manner than the
>board room/bosses office/meeting table.

I perceive one aspect of it as a more holistic web group than some of
the narrow technical groups.

For example, an HTML authoring group is about HTML authoring. But "web
mastering", to me, covers a broad scope about operating a web site,
from HTML through CSS but with the greater whole of the site - hence
my agittation at some of the discussions which get stuck in HTML
validation issues without seeing the broader picture - those
discussions are more suited to alt.html.

My business is a web-based publication. That business has many facets,
presentation is one which in turn is comprised of HTML, CSS,
accessibility, cross-broswer compatability. But the primary aspect is
profitability, which is comprised of all the other smaller parts.

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__/ [Toby Inkster] on Saturday 03 September 2005 08:41 \__

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> It quickly slides into non-technical issues and dialogues that are hard
>> to follow.
>
> No point in turning this group into another alt.html. We already have
> alt.html for that.

Yes, but HTML <> Webmaster. I am still reluctant to get involved in threads,
which in this newsgroup can go on for a very long time, even when not
labelled [OT]. I respect everyone else's preference, which evidently is
largely different than mine. Like I said, this message did not embrace the
offence.

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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> __/ [Toby Inkster] on Saturday 03 September 2005 08:41 \__
>
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> It quickly slides into non-technical issues and dialogues that are
>>> hard to follow.
>>
>> No point in turning this group into another alt.html. We already have
>> alt.html for that.
>
> Yes, but HTML <> Webmaster. I am still reluctant to get involved in
> threads, which in this newsgroup can go on for a very long time, even
> when not labelled [OT]. I respect everyone else's preference, which
> evidently is largely different than mine. Like I said, this message
> did not embrace the offence.
>
> Roy

I find that this ng has a higher noise to signal ratio that most technical
groups.
Once a thread's gone past 10 posts or so it starts getting futile to follow
it any longer if you're after information.

Sometimes I feel like the ng should be called alt.www.flirting or
alt.www.one-up.

That being said, when you can find technical content, it's useful, thorough,
and well argued out.
The noise however prevents me from giving this group out to people looking
for technical reference sources.
YMMV
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:24:26 +0100, Dylan Parry <usenet DeleteThis @dylanparry.com> wrote:

>Well it's just round the corner from the others, except that this one
>leads to somewhere sunny with palm trees.

I had not realized that there are palm trees in Wales. Until I checked I thought
you had found my palm trees.
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Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the cafeteria
Dylan Parry <usenet RemoveThis @dylanparry.com> said:

> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, Els scraped:
>
>> Good plan. Stuffed with what? What kind of food would go with cider?
>
> Chocolate covered raisins.

Interesting choice - I'd probably go for a decent slab of Cheddar

>> (if it's that same cheap stuff I had last time I had cider, best don't
>> add food...)
>
> I wasn't planning on have the cheap stuff!

quite so.

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Dylan Parry wrote:

> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, William Tasso scraped:
>
>> Interesting choice - I'd probably go for a decent slab of Cheddar
>
>
> Mmmnn. I think a nice doorstep sandwich with extra thick white bread,
> mature Cheddar and plenty of Branston pickle would be lovely about now!
>
Have to say that some of the threads are hilarious and make my day.
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Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the cafeteria
Dylan Parry <usenet DeleteThis @dylanparry.com> said:

> Using a pointed stick and pebbles, William Tasso scraped:
>
>> Interesting choice - I'd probably go for a decent slab of Cheddar
>
> Mmmnn. I think a nice doorstep sandwich with extra thick white bread,
> mature Cheddar and plenty of Branston pickle would be lovely about now!

Cheddar: May I recommend the Montgomery, a particularly robust variety -
you won't need the Branston

This is the cheese shop?

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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups.TakeThisOut@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
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> __/ [Toby Inkster] on Saturday 03 September 2005 08:56 \__

>
> Is he as snappy as Korpela? It doesn't seem so. Taking a quick look at
> CIWAH, I can see 10 unread messages, which indicates that it is quite
> alive. I don't know why, but the subject lines in that group rarely beg
> attention. The search engines newsgroup is currently my favourite.

Ok, I give up, what does CIWAH stand for please

jenny
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