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anonymous1402

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:46 pm
Post subject: IIS causing server crashes?
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After 17 months of ok service (crashing 2-3 times per month), my Windows 2000 server has started crashing 4+ times per day recently.

My server logs around a crash event look as follows:

2004-06-01 18:11:20 205.128.0.98 80 GET /images/goto/gospiral.gif - 200 0 Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+5.23;+Mac_PowerPC) ASPSESSIONIDSARRCAAD=BKALCBFCJODCPBFDIKMGMHLM http://www.worldofboxes.com/animals/animal-prints.htm
2004-06-01 18:11:20 205.128.0.98 80 GET /images/goto/gocelt.gif - 200 585 Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+5.23;+Mac_PowerPC) ASPSESSIONIDSARRCAAD=BKALCBFCJODCPBFDIKMGMHLM http://www.worldofboxes.com/animals/animal-prints.htm
2004-06-01 18:11:2#Software: Microsoft Internet Information Services 5.0
#Version: 1.0
#Date: 2004-06-01 18:25:02
#Fields: date time c-ip s-port cs-method cs-uri-stem cs-uri-query sc-status sc-bytes cs(User-Agent) cs(Cookie) cs(Referer)
2004-06-01 18:25:02 204.77.16.19 80 GET /index.htm - 200 0 Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1) - -
2004-06-01 18:25:06 204.77.16.19 80 GET /mainstyle.css - 200 3668 Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1) ASPSESSIONIDQSTCSDBB=CJBPPEGCHLAILAIADBBJPHGF http://www.worldofboxes.com
2004-06-01 18:25:12 204.77.16.19 80 GET /common/ha.asp - 200 0 Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1) ASPSESSIONIDQSTCSDBB=CJBPPEGCHLAILAIADBBJPHGF http://www.worldofboxes.com

In this case, the system event log recorded a crash at 18:19:51, about eight minutes after the last, truncated entry in the server log. This is typical -- the server logs appear to stop mid-line anywhere from two to 45 minutes before an operating system crash, with eight minutes being the most common interval. (The site is busy by day, so those gaps are not due to lack of activity.)

I can think of two explanations:
1) on restarting after the crash, IIS chews off a big chunk of the current log before it starts writing again, creating the appearance of a gap.
2) IIS has stopped logging several minutes before the system crash.

In case (2), I think IIS is still serving pages even though it is not logging the activity, because the web service is monitored every 20 minutes by Alertra, and I have not received a single alert through dozens of crashes. This is possible considering that the site must be down 2.5 minutes starting from Alertra's first try before an alert is sent, and the reboots take two to five minutes, so perhaps by chance no crash has triggered an alert. But if IIS had stopped when the logs stopped, many alerts would have been inevitable. (Or else Alertra is a scam after all, but I don't think so.)

Assuming case (2), I can speculate on two further possible conclusions:
2a.) IIS is starting to get unstable at the time it stops logging, and it brings the whole system down two to 45 minutes later.
2b.) Whatever is crashing the system affects IIS first, causing it to stop logging.

Has anyone ever seen or heard of anything like this? Does IIS look like the problem, or a victim?

Removing and reinstalling IIS, and restoring the metabase from a backup, did not help even slightly.

As for the crashes themselves, the system stop message is fairly generic and unhelpful:
0x000000d1 (0x00000000, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
The exception address is always the same and seems to fall in the range of ntoskrnl.exe.

Also, no new hardware or software (other than Windows updates) was added to the system for a very long time.

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patfilot

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:25 am
Post subject: Re: IIS causing server crashes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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By crashing, do you mean blue screens? 2-3 times per month is way, way out
of the band of normalcy. As to IIS, it is unlikely the cause since it runs
entirely in User mode (kernel mode failure is required for a blue screen).
You may find the culprit by doing the following:
1) Download the debugger pack (www.microsoft.com/ddk/debugging)
2) Open the MEMORY.DMP file with Windbg
3) Set the symbol path per the website instructions (from #1)
4) At the prompt, type !analyze -v <enter>

Cut and paste the output and post it to the group.

Pat

"cb" <anonymous.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:78FFC3B0-3FC0-4343-969B-DC59B80A50CD@microsoft.com...
 > After 17 months of ok service (crashing 2-3 times per month), my Windows
2000 server has started crashing 4+ times per day recently.
 >
 > My server logs around a crash event look as follows:
 >
 > 2004-06-01 18:11:20 205.128.0.98 80 GET /images/goto/gospiral.gif - 200 0
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+5.23;+Mac_PowerPC)
ASPSESSIONIDSARRCAAD=BKALCBFCJODCPBFDIKMGMHLM
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.worldofboxes.com/animals/animal-prints.htm" target="_blank">http://www.worldofboxes.com/animals/animal-prints.htm</a>
 > 2004-06-01 18:11:20 205.128.0.98 80 GET /images/goto/gocelt.gif - 200 585
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+5.23;+Mac_PowerPC)
ASPSESSIONIDSARRCAAD=BKALCBFCJODCPBFDIKMGMHLM
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.worldofboxes.com/animals/animal-prints.htm" target="_blank">http://www.worldofboxes.com/animals/animal-prints.htm</a>
 > 2004-06-01 18:11:2#Software: Microsoft Internet Information Services 5.0
 > #Version: 1.0
 > #Date: 2004-06-01 18:25:02
 > #Fields: date time c-ip s-port cs-method cs-uri-stem cs-uri-query
sc-status sc-bytes cs(User-Agent) cs(Cookie) cs(Referer)
 > 2004-06-01 18:25:02 204.77.16.19 80 GET /index.htm - 200 0
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1) - -
 > 2004-06-01 18:25:06 204.77.16.19 80 GET /mainstyle.css - 200 3668
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1)
ASPSESSIONIDQSTCSDBB=CJBPPEGCHLAILAIADBBJPHGF <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.worldofboxes.com" target="_blank">http://www.worldofboxes.com</a>
 > 2004-06-01 18:25:12 204.77.16.19 80 GET /common/ha.asp - 200 0
Mozilla/4.0+(compatible;+MSIE+6.0;+Windows+NT+5.1)
ASPSESSIONIDQSTCSDBB=CJBPPEGCHLAILAIADBBJPHGF <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.worldofboxes.com" target="_blank">http://www.worldofboxes.com</a>
 >
 > In this case, the system event log recorded a crash at 18:19:51, about
eight minutes after the last, truncated entry in the server log. This is
typical -- the server logs appear to stop mid-line anywhere from two to 45
minutes before an operating system crash, with eight minutes being the most
common interval. (The site is busy by day, so those gaps are not due to lack
of activity.)
 >
 > I can think of two explanations:
 > 1) on restarting after the crash, IIS chews off a big chunk of the current
log before it starts writing again, creating the appearance of a gap.
 > 2) IIS has stopped logging several minutes before the system crash.
 >
 > In case (2), I think IIS is still serving pages even though it is not
logging the activity, because the web service is monitored every 20 minutes
by Alertra, and I have not received a single alert through dozens of
crashes. This is possible considering that the site must be down 2.5 minutes
starting from Alertra's first try before an alert is sent, and the reboots
take two to five minutes, so perhaps by chance no crash has triggered an
alert. But if IIS had stopped when the logs stopped, many alerts would have
been inevitable. (Or else Alertra is a scam after all, but I don't think
so.)
 >
 > Assuming case (2), I can speculate on two further possible conclusions:
 > 2a.) IIS is starting to get unstable at the time it stops logging, and it
brings the whole system down two to 45 minutes later.
 > 2b.) Whatever is crashing the system affects IIS first, causing it to stop
logging.
 >
 > Has anyone ever seen or heard of anything like this? Does IIS look like
the problem, or a victim?
 >
 > Removing and reinstalling IIS, and restoring the metabase from a backup,
did not help even slightly.
 >
 > As for the crashes themselves, the system stop message is fairly generic
and unhelpful:
 > 0x000000d1 (0x00000000, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
 > The exception address is always the same and seems to fall in the range of
ntoskrnl.exe.
 >
 > Also, no new hardware or software (other than Windows updates) was added
to the system for a very long time.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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anonymous2026

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Since: Jun 02, 2004
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:31 am
Post subject: RE: IIS causing server crashes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Hello,

You mentioned that the exception list address and seems to fall in the range ntoskrnl.exe, could you please check that MS04-011 patch is installed on this server as well as run online virus scanner to make sure this server is not infected?

What was the exact error message? Could you post it here?

Also if the server is crashing and if there no IIS logs during that time...could you please check Drwtsn32.log file? Please post here the last log at very bottom of Drwtsn32.log file?

I would recommend installing IIS debug tools and get a crash dump.

HTH.
Ganesh [MSFT]
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anonymous1402

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:06 am
Post subject: RE: IIS causing server crashes? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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It turns out that on my system at least, IIS does chew off a chunk of the existing log file before it starts writing again. So the theory about gaps in the logs was wrong, and IIS is no longer a particular suspect.

This is a web server that runs in a data center far away, so I never see the blue screen. All I see is a 6008 event in the event log (previous stop was unexpected) and it automatically restarts, over and over again.

MS04-011 was installed weeks ago, and the sytem tests clean with f-protect antivirus scanner.

I will keep working on it.
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