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user542

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:12 pm
Post subject: HEAD entries in Apache logs
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Just recently I've been getting quite a lot, every day, of log entries
like these:

195.93.34.10 - - [27/Jul/2004:17:15:45 +0100] "HEAD /hertfordshire/stalbans17big.html HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "-"

They often occur in batches. There were 15 of these entries at about 20
minute intervals. The IP address is an AOL address.

What would generate these entries?


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:32 pm
Post subject: Re: HEAD entries in Apache logs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Samuels" <>
Newsgroups: alt.www.webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 5:12 AM
Subject: HEAD entries in Apache logs


 > Just recently I've been getting quite a lot, every day, of log entries
 > like these:
 >
 > 195.93.34.10 - - [27/Jul/2004:17:15:45 +0100] "HEAD
/hertfordshire/stalbans17big.html HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "-"
 >
 > They often occur in batches. There were 15 of these entries at about 20
 > minute intervals. The IP address is an AOL address.
 >
 > What would generate these entries?
 >
 >
 > Barry Samuels
 >

Were both the Referrer and UA fields blank on these requests in ALL?

I've been getting these for a couple of weeks now.
They eat 403's on my sites.
It's likely AOL attempting validate if their cached pages need updating.
I have one AOL which returns daily for two pages and attempting to reload
the head request some 10-15 times in succession for each page. All the while
getting 403's because of the aforementioned blank fields.

I have two email lists and inquired to AOL subscribers if there was perhaps
some kind of recent patch which changed their UA's. I did not receive any
replies of significance. IMO, anybody who uses AOL doesn't have any real
concept of how the internet works anyway (they've never seen it.)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:34 pm
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:32:32 +0000, lostinspace wrote:

 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Barry Samuels" <>
 > Newsgroups: alt.www.webmaster
 > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 5:12 AM
 > Subject: HEAD entries in Apache logs
 >
 >
  >> Just recently I've been getting quite a lot, every day, of log entries
  >> like these:
  >>
  >> 195.93.34.10 - - [27/Jul/2004:17:15:45 +0100] "HEAD
 > /hertfordshire/stalbans17big.html HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "-"
  >>
  >> They often occur in batches. There were 15 of these entries at about 20
  >> minute intervals. The IP address is an AOL address.
  >>
  >> What would generate these entries?
  >>
  >>
  >> Barry Samuels
  >>
 >
 > Were both the Referrer and UA fields blank on these requests in ALL?

Yes. The log entry is reproduced exactly as it was.

 > I've been getting these for a couple of weeks now.

My experience is probably about the same.

 > They eat 403's on my sites.
 > It's likely AOL attempting validate if their cached pages need updating.
 > I have one AOL which returns daily for two pages and attempting to reload
 > the head request some 10-15 times in succession for each page. All the while
 > getting 403's because of the aforementioned blank fields.

Apart from the 403s I get something similar. I get these accesses every
day. Repeated accesses for any given page and always from AOL.

 > I have two email lists and inquired to AOL subscribers if there was
 > perhaps some kind of recent patch which changed their UA's. I did not
 > receive any replies of significance. IMO, anybody who uses AOL doesn't
 > have any real concept of how the internet works anyway (they've never
 > seen it.)

Barry Samuels
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk" target="_blank">http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk</a> - The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:48 pm
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in post: <news:pan.2004.07.28.09.12.00.856782@closedworld.com>
Barry Samuels <bog.off.TakeThisOut@closedworld.com> said:

 > "HEAD /hertfordshire/stalbans17big.html HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "-"

<quote>
The HEAD method is identical to GET except that the server MUST NOT
return a message-body in the response. The metainformation contained in
the HTTP headers in response to a HEAD request SHOULD be identical to
the information sent in response to a GET request. This method can be
used for obtaining metainformation about the entity implied by the
request without transferring the entity-body itself. This method is
often used for testing hypertext links for validity, accessibility, and
recent modification.
</quote> rfc2616 9.4

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:48 pm
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:48:54 +1000, brucie wrote:

 > in post: <news:pan.2004.07.28.09.12.00.856782@closedworld.com>
 > Barry Samuels <bog.off.DeleteThis@closedworld.com> said:
 >
  >> "HEAD /hertfordshire/stalbans17big.html HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "-"
 >
 > <quote>
 > This method is
 > often used for testing hypertext links for validity, accessibility, and
 > recent modification.

But every 20 minutes ???

Barry Samuels
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk" target="_blank">http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk</a> - The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:41 am
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"brucie" <shit.DeleteThis@usenetshit.info> wrote in message
news:66flali7fw53$.dlg@usenetshit.info...
 > in post: <news:pan.2004.07.28.09.12.00.856782@closedworld.com>
 > Barry Samuels <bog.off.DeleteThis@closedworld.com> said:
 >
  > > "HEAD /hertfordshire/stalbans17big.html HTTP/1.1" 200 - "-" "-"
 >

 > i h e a r v o i c e s

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