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dragnet

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:24 am
Post subject: Google pagerank / cloning question
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Hey all;

I'm pretty sure the answer to this is "don't do this" ... But a customer is
insisting it'll work (sigh).

He's got a site, say, www.foobar.com - he's registered 20 other domains,
foobar1.com through foobar20.com

He wants to clone index.html from foobar.com and use them on all the
others, but with their links all pointing back to foobar.com


I told him that he wasn't the first to think of doing this and that the
Googlebots are more than likely smart enough to detect this and nuke his
ranking entirely. He insists that this will increase his page rank.

I suggested that at the very least, he vary the content on foobar1.com
through foobar20.com and then have the links pointing back to the main
site, but I think he's going to cheap out and do "copy+paste*20"

So am I right - is this going to kill his rankings / listings in Google ?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:24 am
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:24:19 GMT, Marc Bissonnette
<dragnet.DeleteThis@internalysis.com> wrote:

 > Hey all;
 >
 > I'm pretty sure the answer to this is "don't do this" ... But a customer
 > is
 > insisting it'll work (sigh).
 >
 > He's got a site, say, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.foobar.com" target="_blank">www.foobar.com</a> - he's registered 20 other domains,
 > foobar1.com through foobar20.com
 >
 > He wants to clone index.html from foobar.com and use them on all the
 > others, but with their links all pointing back to foobar.com
 >
 >
 > I told him that he wasn't the first to think of doing this and that the
 > Googlebots are more than likely smart enough to detect this and nuke his
 > ranking entirely. He insists that this will increase his page rank.
 >
 > I suggested that at the very least, he vary the content on foobar1.com
 > through foobar20.com and then have the links pointing back to the main
 > site, but I think he's going to cheap out and do "copy+paste*20"
 >
 > So am I right - is this going to kill his rankings / listings in Google ?

From: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html</a>

"Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially
duplicate content."

Grey

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:24 am
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GreyWyvern wrote:
 > On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:24:19 GMT, Marc Bissonnette
 > <dragnet.RemoveThis@internalysis.com> wrote:
 >
  >> Hey all;
  >>
  >> I'm pretty sure the answer to this is "don't do this" ... But a
  >> customer is
  >> insisting it'll work (sigh).
  >>
  >> He's got a site, say, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.foobar.com" target="_blank">www.foobar.com</a> - he's registered 20 other
  >> domains, foobar1.com through foobar20.com
  >>
  >> He wants to clone index.html from foobar.com and use them on all the
  >> others, but with their links all pointing back to foobar.com
  >>
  >>
  >> I told him that he wasn't the first to think of doing this and that
  >> the Googlebots are more than likely smart enough to detect this and
  >> nuke his ranking entirely. He insists that this will increase his
  >> page rank.
  >>
  >> I suggested that at the very least, he vary the content on
  >> foobar1.com through foobar20.com and then have the links pointing
  >> back to the main site, but I think he's going to cheap out and do
  >> "copy+paste*20"
  >>
  >> So am I right - is this going to kill his rankings / listings in
  >> Google ?
 >
<font color=purple> > From: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html</font</a>>
 >
 > "Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with
 > substantially duplicate content."
 >
 > Grey

Thats odd... I have been buying domains now and then and parking them on my
ppc search account. The ppc search site is a PR4 and every domain I put over
it also ends up a PR4...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:54 am
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GreyWyvern <spam DeleteThis @greywyvern.com> wrote in
news:opr9ar5jlwsl6xfd@news.nas.net:

 > On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:24:19 GMT, Marc Bissonnette
 > <dragnet DeleteThis @internalysis.com> wrote:
 >
  >> Hey all;
  >>
  >> I'm pretty sure the answer to this is "don't do this" ... But a
  >> customer is
  >> insisting it'll work (sigh).
  >>
  >> He's got a site, say, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.foobar.com" target="_blank">www.foobar.com</a> - he's registered 20 other
  >> domains, foobar1.com through foobar20.com
  >>
  >> He wants to clone index.html from foobar.com and use them on all the
  >> others, but with their links all pointing back to foobar.com
  >>
  >>
  >> I told him that he wasn't the first to think of doing this and that
  >> the Googlebots are more than likely smart enough to detect this and
  >> nuke his ranking entirely. He insists that this will increase his
  >> page rank.
  >>
  >> I suggested that at the very least, he vary the content on
  >> foobar1.com through foobar20.com and then have the links pointing
  >> back to the main site, but I think he's going to cheap out and do
  >> "copy+paste*20"
  >>
  >> So am I right - is this going to kill his rankings / listings in
  >> Google ?
 >
<font color=purple> > From: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html</font</a>>
 >
 > "Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with
 > substantially duplicate content."

Perfect! Thanks, Grey!

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:22 am
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Marc Bissonnette wrote:
 > ...
 > I suggested that at the very least, he vary the content on foobar1.com
 > through foobar20.com

Good call
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:17 pm
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In article <opr9ar5jlwsl6xfd.TakeThisOut@news.nas.net>, GreyWyvern
<spam.TakeThisOut@greywyvern.com> writes
<font color=purple> >From: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html</font</a>>
 >
 >"Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially
 >duplicate content."

When I moved part of my material onto a paid domain (www.malvaceae.info)
I left the text on the old site (www.meden.demon.co.uk/Malvaceae/) and
pointed all the hypertext and image links at the new site. (So that
people coming in on old links and search engine results still gets thru'
to my material.) This doesn't seem to have been a problem, but it is
only 2 copies.
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