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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:43 pm
Post subject: Does Google index a website using IP number or domain name?
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Hi there

I would like to know if Google indexes web sites using an IP number or
domain name.

The reason for the question is because I have to change my domain name
(but will keep same IP number) and wondering if I will lose my
position on Google?

Thanks.

Dee

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:50 am
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webprint RemoveThis @onthenet.com.au wrote:
 > Hi there
 >
 > I would like to know if Google indexes web sites using an IP number or
 > domain name.

google indexes web documents using their URL

There is no such thing as a web site. It is an artificial construct
promoted by marketing depts.

Are these URLs all part of the same web site?

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/fred/" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/fred/</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://fred.example.com/" target="_blank">http://fred.example.com/</a>

What if 'example' was 'geocities' or 'yahoo'?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:50 am
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 >
 > Are these URLs all part of the same web site?
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/fred/</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/fred/</font</a>>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://fred.example.com/</font" target="_blank">http://fred.example.com/</font</a>>
 >

Yes. By definition they are part of the 'example.com' domain. If you read
the details of the Inktomi indexing methodology used by Google and others,
you'll see they find the root page and work from there, and do the whole
site at one time. If <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/</a> isn't in their index, then
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/fred/" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/fred/</a> won't be either.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 3:22 pm
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"Jezebel" <grocer.RemoveThis@play.net> wrote in > >
  > > Are these URLs all part of the same web site?
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/</font</a>>
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/fred/</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/fred/</font</a>>
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://fred.example.com/</font" target="_blank">http://fred.example.com/</font</a>>
  > >
 >
 > Yes. By definition they are part of the 'example.com' domain. If you read
 > the details of the Inktomi indexing methodology used by Google and others,
 > you'll see they find the root page and work from there, and do the whole
 > site at one time. If <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/</a> isn't in their index, then
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/fred/" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/fred/</a> won't be either.


taken, the point is web hosts that subdomain or use subdirectories get called
one massive website, even though its a million different webmasters.

it kills alexa ratings for one, that's why most sites without their own domain name
get a user rating.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 7:53 pm
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webprint DeleteThis @onthenet.com.au wrote:
 > Hi there
 >
 > I would like to know if Google indexes web sites using an IP number or
 > domain name.
 >
 > The reason for the question is because I have to change my domain name
 > (but will keep same IP number) and wondering if I will lose my
 > position on Google?

Google indexes by domain name. Thus, you will lose your position.
However, just redirect the old domain name to the new, and you should
keep most of your ranking.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:07 pm
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"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm RemoveThis @KILLSPAMMERSmochamail.com> wrote in
message news:3f84792c$0$167$892e7fe2@authen.puce.readfreenews.net...
 > Google indexes by domain name. Thus, you will lose your position.
 > However, just redirect the old domain name to the new, and you should
 > keep most of your ranking.

Although, I have seen <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://xx.xx.xx.xx/" target="_blank">http://xx.xx.xx.xx/</a> in google results, so if you link
to an IP the site may be indexed that way.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:50 pm
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McWebber wrote:
 > "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm DeleteThis @KILLSPAMMERSmochamail.com>
 > wrote in message
 > news:3f84792c$0$167$892e7fe2@authen.puce.readfreenews.net...
  >> Google indexes by domain name. Thus, you will lose your position.
  >> However, just redirect the old domain name to the new, and you should
  >> keep most of your ranking.
 >
 > Although, I have seen <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://xx.xx.xx.xx/" target="_blank">http://xx.xx.xx.xx/</a> in google results, so if
 > you link to an IP the site may be indexed that way.

Possibly. There also are some people out there who have just an IP,
and no domain name.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:49 pm
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 >
 > Although, I have seen <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://xx.xx.xx.xx/" target="_blank">http://xx.xx.xx.xx/</a> in google results, so if you
link
 > to an IP the site may be indexed that way.
 >

This works because the IP address was included as such as a link somewhere
and got indexed along with all the other text in the document. What you're
getting in Google is the result of a straight text search, searching for
"http://xx.xx.xx.xx" in the same way you search for "any keyword".<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:23 am
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Thank you for your reply - I shall set up a redirect.

Thanks
Dee


"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm.DeleteThis@KILLSPAMMERSmochamail.com> wrote in message news:<3f84792c$0$167$892e7fe2@authen.puce.readfreenews.net>...
 > webprint.DeleteThis@onthenet.com.au wrote:
  > > Hi there
  > >
  > > I would like to know if Google indexes web sites using an IP number or
  > > domain name.
  > >
  > > The reason for the question is because I have to change my domain name
  > > (but will keep same IP number) and wondering if I will lose my
  > > position on Google?
 >
 > Google indexes by domain name. Thus, you will lose your position.
 > However, just redirect the old domain name to the new, and you should
 > keep most of your ranking.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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