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Since: Oct 22, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:14 pm
Post subject: Using Frames in Safari
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Hi All

I know the first thing that some might say is that I shouldn't be using in
frames in web sites, but they are listed as being part of the HTML 4.0
standard.

I am trying to do my web sites without them, but I have a couple that really
need to have frames and which work fine in IE and Netscape, but this new
Safari browser seems to have a real problem with them. Problem is that
these couple of framed sites are predominately for Mac users and therefore
the first browser that a Mac user now uses to view the site is Safari.

The exact problem is that the web sites in question are split into 2
horizontal frames to start with and then the 2nd (lower) horizontal frame is
split into 2 vertical frames. This is a common format to give a header,
left hand nav bar and then right hand content page, but it looks like even
the latest Safari can't handle this 2nd vertical frameset. All the user
sees is the header frame and below is blank.

Is this a fault with Safari or is there a way in which the framesets should
be shown in order for it to work in Safari??

Your help would really be appreciated.

Rgds

Laphan

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:33 pm
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Laphan wrote:

 > Your help would really be appreciated.

Your URL would really be appreciated.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:01 pm
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Sorry Toby

URL is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.astraaccounts.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.astraaccounts.co.uk</a>

Rgds Laphan

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Laphan wrote:

 > Your help would really be appreciated.

Your URL would really be appreciated.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:15 pm
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Laphan wrote:

 > Is this a fault with Safari or is there a way in which the framesets should
 > be shown in order for it to work in Safari??

At a guess (and as I don't have Safari this is only a guess!) it's because
of your totally screwy "rows" and "cols" attributes.

Try changing this:
<FRAMESET FRAMEBORDER=0 BORDER=0 FRAMESPACING=0 ROWS="64,*%">
<FRAME SRC="header.html" NAME="header" MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0 NORESIZE SCROLLING="NO">
<FRAMESET FRAMEBORDER=0 BORDER=0 FRAMESPACING=0 COLS="185,76%">
<FRAME SRC="chooser.html" NAME="chooser" MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0 NORESIZE>
<FRAME SRC="home.asp" NAME="viewer">
</FRAMESET>
</FRAMESET>

To this:
<FRAMESET ROWS="64,*">
<FRAME SRC="header.html" NAME="header" SCROLLING="NO">
<FRAMESET COLS="185,*">
<FRAME SRC="chooser.html" NAME="chooser">
<FRAME SRC="home.asp" NAME="viewer">
</FRAMESET>
</FRAMESET>

And then see if it works.

Also, stop using <NOFRAMES> to spam search engines and start using it for
its intended purpose -- to provice alternative content for user agents
that don't support frames.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:58 pm
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"Laphan" <news DeleteThis @DoNotEmailMe.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi All
 >
 > I know the first thing that some might say is that I shouldn't be using in
 > frames in web sites,

Looks like you answered your own question

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:47 pm
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Many thanks Toby

You have nailed the frameset issue.

Rgds

Laphan

Toby Inkster <usenet200409.TakeThisOut@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote in message
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Laphan wrote:

 > Is this a fault with Safari or is there a way in which the framesets
should
 > be shown in order for it to work in Safari??

At a guess (and as I don't have Safari this is only a guess!) it's because
of your totally screwy "rows" and "cols" attributes.

Try changing this:
<FRAMESET FRAMEBORDER=0 BORDER=0 FRAMESPACING=0 ROWS="64,*%">
<FRAME SRC="header.html" NAME="header" MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0 NORESIZE
SCROLLING="NO">
<FRAMESET FRAMEBORDER=0 BORDER=0 FRAMESPACING=0 COLS="185,76%">
<FRAME SRC="chooser.html" NAME="chooser" MARGINWIDTH=0 MARGINHEIGHT=0
NORESIZE>
<FRAME SRC="home.asp" NAME="viewer">
</FRAMESET>
</FRAMESET>

To this:
<FRAMESET ROWS="64,*">
<FRAME SRC="header.html" NAME="header" SCROLLING="NO">
<FRAMESET COLS="185,*">
<FRAME SRC="chooser.html" NAME="chooser">
<FRAME SRC="home.asp" NAME="viewer">
</FRAMESET>
</FRAMESET>

And then see if it works.

Also, stop using <NOFRAMES> to spam search engines and start using it for
its intended purpose -- to provice alternative content for user agents
that don't support frames.

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