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Joe schrieb:
 > I have finally sorted out my hosting - a year later! And the results of
 > it will be onLine tomorrow. I have the form ready at
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk/contactus.html," target="_blank">http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk/contactus.html,</a> but I want to use a
 > different method to get it to my emails (replacing that inferior method
 > by Freewebs who IM leaving). Any recommendations?

Hey you! This newsgroup is about politics, conspiracy theories, and
flame wars! We don't need no steenkin WWW questions in here!!!

Fun aside... does your host offer a formmail script? Most do. Or use
your favourite scripting language to write a formmail script yourself,
and use the host's sendmail (or equivalent) to send mails to yourself.


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Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:

 > Fun aside... does your host offer a formmail script? Most do. Or use
 > your favourite scripting language to write a formmail script yourself,
 > and use the host's sendmail (or equivalent) to send mails to yourself.

It might be better and easier to find one (no, not that one. A good one)
and modify it to meet your specific needs. Sourceforge has a couple of
good ones.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml" target="_blank">http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml</a>

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Scott Bryce wrote:
 > Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
 >
  >> Fun aside... does your host offer a formmail script? Most do. Or use
  >> your favourite scripting language to write a formmail script yourself,
  >> and use the host's sendmail (or equivalent) to send mails to yourself.
 >
 >
 > It might be better and easier to find one (no, not that one. A good one)

"That one" has been updated a long time ago to make it more secure. Most
hosts offer the updated version.


 > and modify it to meet your specific needs. Sourceforge has a couple of
 > good ones.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml</font</a>>

Yeah, reusing an existing script is better than writing one from
scratch. Although I also keep running into situations where figuring out
the existing script takes as much time (and is less fun) than writing
one from scratch.


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Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
 > ...
 > Yeah, reusing an existing script is better than writing one from
 > scratch. Although I also keep running into situations where figuring
 > out the existing script takes as much time (and is less fun) than
 > writing one from scratch.

uh huh - whenever I sit down to write from scratch, I'm plagued with a
vision of thousands, millions of monkeys sitting at keyboards, bashing away
as if their lives depended on it.

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Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:

 > "That one" has been updated a long time ago to make it more secure. Most
 > hosts offer the updated version.

I didn't have a particular "that one" in mind. It's that most free CGI
scripts you run into on the net aren't well written.

The "that one" you are probably referring to has not been maintained by
the original author in years, and is still the most-used CGI script of
its kind on the net, in spite of the fact that the author himself
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William Tasso wrote:
 > Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
 >
  >>...
  >>Yeah, reusing an existing script is better than writing one from
  >>scratch. Although I also keep running into situations where figuring
  >>out the existing script takes as much time (and is less fun) than
  >>writing one from scratch.
 >
 >
 > uh huh - whenever I sit down to write from scratch, I'm plagued with a
 > vision of thousands, millions of monkeys sitting at keyboards, bashing away
 > as if their lives depended on it.

Hehehe! I know the feeling... still, it beats scratching your head and
pulling your hair out because the @#!&& programmer didn't think of
commenting his script like he should have.


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Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
 > ...
 > it beats scratching your head and
 > pulling your hair out because the @#!&& programmer didn't think of
 > commenting his script like he should have.

/veering off at a tangent

I read somewhere: that most illustrious of Finns, Mr Linux (Linus Torvalds)
documents his code in English (when he bothers at all).

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William Tasso wrote:
 > Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
 >
  >>...
  >>it beats scratching your head and
  >>pulling your hair out because the @#!&& programmer didn't think of
  >>commenting his script like he should have.
 >
 >
 > /veering off at a tangent
 >
 > I read somewhere: that most illustrious of Finns, Mr Linux (Linus Torvalds)
 > documents his code in English (when he bothers at all).

Speaking of languages. Someone in our company had a Portuguese-speaking
programmer create a mini-site with a rather complex Javascript-based
navigation scheme.

Naturally, the mini-site couldn't be navigated without the
Javascript-based navigation. And of course the script stopped working
altogether after a couple months, probably because the maintainer (some
secretary) had no idea what she was doing.

We tried to fix it, but since all variable names and all documentation
was in Portuguese, we had no chance of figuring out what the hell was
going on.

I think they're replacing the whole mess with one giant PDF document
now... I'm glad I'm not involved in that particular project .


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Hi,

I'd recommend that you take a look at FormBreeze
(http://www.formbreeze.com). We use this for all our forms and it is
the best solution I have seen with capabilities way beyond formmail
scrips.




Matthias Gutfeldt <say-no-to-spam.DeleteThis@gmx.net> wrote in message news:<2nh3qkFr0l0U1.DeleteThis@uni-berlin.de>...
 > Scott Bryce wrote:
  > > Matthias Gutfeldt wrote:
  > >
   > >> Fun aside... does your host offer a formmail script? Most do. Or use
   > >> your favourite scripting language to write a formmail script yourself,
   > >> and use the host's sendmail (or equivalent) to send mails to yourself.
  > >
  > >
  > > It might be better and easier to find one (no, not that one. A good one)
 >
 > "That one" has been updated a long time ago to make it more secure. Most
 > hosts offer the updated version.
 >
 >
  > > and modify it to meet your specific needs. Sourceforge has a couple of
  > > good ones.
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml</font" target="_blank">http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml</font</a>>
 >
 > Yeah, reusing an existing script is better than writing one from
 > scratch. Although I also keep running into situations where figuring out
 > the existing script takes as much time (and is less fun) than writing
 > one from scratch.
 >
 >
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William Tasso wrote:

 > I read somewhere: that most illustrious of Finns, Mr Linux (Linus Torvalds)
 > documents his code in English (when he bothers at all).

"Mr Linux" in fact doesn't speak Finnish very well anyway -- his first
language is Swedish. But yes, all the comments in the Linux source code
are in (mainly US) English.

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