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mcp6453

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 8:22 pm
Post subject: Font Size
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What is the difference in HTML between a font size of 0 and +0? I have a
page with text that is one size too big -- it's +1 now. If I change it
to +0, it's the right size. However, I initially changed it to 0, but
that was WAY too small. Obviously I'm not an HTML coder.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 1:38 am Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

mcp6453 wrote: > What is the difference in HTML between a font size of 0 Never existed. > and +0? Meaningless. > I have a page with text that is one size too big -- it's +1 now. Stop using <font>, its been deprecated for years. Use CSS instead. But if the text is too big for you, then the problem is with your browser settings, not the page. -- David Dorward <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://dorward.me.uk/" target="_blank">http://dorward.me.uk/</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:08 am Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

David Dorward wrote: > > and +0? > Meaningless. <trivia alert> Back in the days of the IBM 1620 you could have -0 and it would not compare the same as 0... </trivia alert> -- bc A: Top posters. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

They are no differences. Work with " px " i.e. font-size: 9px. Sphinx >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Recep Uzun wrote: > They are no differences. > Work with " px " i.e. font-size: 9px. > don't...for a start I can't effing read text set at 9px on my home system...you DON'T know how the visitors system is set in terms of dpi...you don't know how their eyesight is ONLY ever use px to define the size of text that absolutely must align precisely with an image...otherwise use % to define headers and small print and leave the main body of text alone...if you don't like the default size on your own system them change it locally, don't try to alter it for everyone else -- eric <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ericjarvis.co.uk" target="_blank">www.ericjarvis.co.uk</a> "Hey Lord don't ask me questions There ain't no answer in me"<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Recep Uzun wrote: > They are no differences. Wrong. > Work with " px " i.e. font-size: 9px. No, don't. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_26_using_relative_font_sizes.html" target="_blank">http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_26_using_relative_font_sizes.html</a> -- David Dorward <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://dorward.me.uk/" target="_blank">http://dorward.me.uk/</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:20 am Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Recep Uzun wrote: > ... > Work with " px " i.e. font-size: 9px. > wash your mouth out with soap. -- William Tasso - <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://WilliamTasso.com" target="_blank">http://WilliamTasso.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bill Clark wrote: > David Dorward wrote: > >>> and +0? > >> Meaningless. > > <trivia alert> > > Back in the days of the IBM 1620 you could have -0 and it would not > compare the same as 0... > > </trivia alert> continuing the theme: There were several NCR mainframes that acknowledged the difference between plus and minus zero. -- William Tasso - <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://WilliamTasso.com" target="_blank">http://WilliamTasso.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"mcp6453" <mcp6453 DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:3F36B78B.7117@bellsouth.net... > What is the difference in HTML between a font size of 0 and +0? I have a > page with text that is one size too big -- it's +1 now. If I change it > to +0, it's the right size. However, I initially changed it to 0, but > that was WAY too small. Obviously I'm not an HTML coder. Seeing as most others are going off on a tangent... OK font sizes 101 (old style, i.e. not CSS etc..) Size= 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc.... is an absolute size, I think 3 is normal size.... Size=-2,-1,+1,+2,+3 is relative to the size that you had before, as such, yes +-0 would be meaningless.... Hope this clears up the above... Gerry<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Gerry White - use my name at dergal dot come for email wrote: > > "mcp6453" <mcp6453 DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:3F36B78B.7117@bellsouth.net... > > What is the difference in HTML between a font size of 0 and +0? I have a > > page with text that is one size too big -- it's +1 now. If I change it > > to +0, it's the right size. However, I initially changed it to 0, but > > that was WAY too small. Obviously I'm not an HTML coder. > > Seeing as most others are going off on a tangent... > OK font sizes 101 (old style, i.e. not CSS etc..) > Size= 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc.... is an absolute size, I think 3 is normal > size.... > Size=-2,-1,+1,+2,+3 is relative to the size that you had before, as such, > yes +-0 would be meaningless.... > > Hope this clears up the above... Gerry: Thank you for your straight-on answer. You win the cigar. I solved the problem by simply deleting the font size reference altogether. Mike<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

mcp6453 wrote: > Gerry White - use my name at dergal dot come for email wrote: > > > > "mcp6453" <mcp6453 DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > news:3F36B78B.7117@bellsouth.net... > > > What is the difference in HTML between a font size of 0 and +0? I have a > > > page with text that is one size too big -- it's +1 now. If I change it > > > to +0, it's the right size. However, I initially changed it to 0, but > > > that was WAY too small. Obviously I'm not an HTML coder. > > > > Seeing as most others are going off on a tangent... > > OK font sizes 101 (old style, i.e. not CSS etc..) > > Size= 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc.... is an absolute size, I think 3 is normal > > size.... > > Size=-2,-1,+1,+2,+3 is relative to the size that you had before, as such, > > yes +-0 would be meaningless.... > > > > Hope this clears up the above... > > Gerry: > > Thank you for your straight-on answer. You win the cigar. I solved the > problem by simply deleting the font size reference altogether. > the ideal solution -- eric <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ericjarvis.co.uk" target="_blank">www.ericjarvis.co.uk</a> "Hey Lord don't ask me questions There ain't no answer in me"<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Eric Jarvis" <web DeleteThis @ericjarvis.co.uk> wrote in message news:MPG.19a1a0ff37a53db798b4f6@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > mcp6453 wrote: > > Gerry White - use my name at dergal dot come for email wrote: > > > > > > "mcp6453" <mcp6453 DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > > news:3F36B78B.7117@bellsouth.net... > > > > What is the difference in HTML between a font size of 0 and +0? I have a > > > > page with text that is one size too big -- it's +1 now. If I change it > > > > to +0, it's the right size. However, I initially changed it to 0, but > > > > that was WAY too small. Obviously I'm not an HTML coder. > > > > > > Seeing as most others are going off on a tangent... > > > OK font sizes 101 (old style, i.e. not CSS etc..) > > > Size= 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc.... is an absolute size, I think 3 is normal > > > size.... > > > Size=-2,-1,+1,+2,+3 is relative to the size that you had before, as such, > > > yes +-0 would be meaningless.... > > > > > > Hope this clears up the above... > > > > Gerry: > > > > Thank you for your straight-on answer. You win the cigar. I solved the > > problem by simply deleting the font size reference altogether. > > > > the ideal solution > Are you sure? I did that once and without a font size visitors were able to set the size they wanted - most inconsiderate with regards to how I wanted the site to look! Next thing you know, visitors will want to change the content and then where will we be? eh? eh? eh?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bill Logan wrote: > "Eric Jarvis" <web.DeleteThis@ericjarvis.co.uk> wrote in message >>>Gerry White - use my name at dergal dot come for email wrote: >>>Thank you for your straight-on answer. You win the cigar. I solved the >>>problem by simply deleting the font size reference altogether. >>> >> >>the ideal solution >> > > Are you sure? > I did that once and without a font size visitors were able to set the size > they wanted - most inconsiderate with regards to how I wanted the site to > look! Next thing you know, visitors will want to change the content and then > where will we be? eh? eh? eh? Right, it's shocking. Sooner or later the patients would be running the asylum. Matthias<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:55 am Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:50:32 +0200 "Recep Uzun" <ruzun.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at T-Online to write: >They are no differences. >Work with " px " i.e. font-size: 9px. > Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Please do not use absolute pixel sizes, please use relative sizes so that the reader can pick their own text size. By using relative sizes your headings will still be bigger, for example. Matt -- A massive matrix of concise, interlinked encyclopaedia information. For when you just want to know, quickly and easily. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com" target="_blank">http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Font Size [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Matt Probert" <www.TakeThisOut@probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message news:3f3f34af.2362656@news.ntlworld.com... > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:50:32 +0200 "Recep Uzun" <ruzun.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> > broke off from drinking a cup of tea at T-Online to write: > > >They are no differences. > >Work with " px " i.e. font-size: 9px. > > > > Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! > > Please do not use absolute pixel sizes, please use relative sizes so > that the reader can pick their own text size. By using relative sizes > your headings will still be bigger, for example. > ....yawn!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Font Size

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