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fatkinson

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:35 pm
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Where can I find fonts that can be used on Web pages? I don't
care if they are commercial or freeware.



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nothespacegirl

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:35 pm
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Fred Atkinson wrote:
  > Where can I find fonts that can be used on Web pages? I don't
 > care if they are commercial or freeware.
 >
 >
 >
   > Fred
 >

Embedded:

There's really no such thing. Browser support for embedded fonts is
really patchy, and even when they do work you add a big lump that has to
be downloaded by the browser which could easily take as long as a small
page all by itself. AND then you have to worry about licensing. It's not
worth the hassle.

So, basically you're left with, Arial, Verdana (ew!), Tahoma, Times New
Roman, Courier and a few other varients. These are the ones most
commonly installed on a users machine. Other than that, you have ZERO
control over fonts - other than using them in Flash movies and static
graphics I guess).

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:53 pm
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Fred Atkinson wrote:
  > Where can I find fonts that can be used on Web pages? I don't
 > care if they are commercial or freeware.

See <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/res_fonts.htm#a04" target="_blank">http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/res_fonts.htm#a04</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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jake

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:35 am
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In message <367tciF4ur03cU1.TakeThisOut@individual.net>, SpaceGirl
<NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM.TakeThisOut@subhuman.net> writes
 >Fred Atkinson wrote:
  >> Where can I find fonts that can be used on Web pages? I don't
  >> care if they are commercial or freeware. Fred

 >
 >Embedded:
 >
 >There's really no such thing.

Yes there is.

 >Browser support for embedded fonts is really patchy,

Nope. Either 100% (IE) or not at all (non-IE).

Depending on the application, of course, this may not be much of an
issue. Assuming 90% of your potential viewers are IE users, they get to
see the downloaded font; the other 10% get to see your recommended
substitute or their own default.

 >and even when they do work you add a big lump

'Big' is relative. Anyway, if they're just used for headings the font
file can be very small -- typically 3k or 4k.

 >that has to be downloaded by the browser which could easily take as
 >long as a small page all by itself.

See above.

 >AND then you have to worry about licensing.

Not really. The embedded font won't even get generated if the font's
originator doesn't allow embedding.

 >It's not worth the hassle.

No hassle involved.
 >
 >So, basically you're left with, Arial, Verdana (ew!), Tahoma, Times New
 >Roman, Courier and a few other varients. These are the ones most
 >commonly installed on a users machine. Other than that, you have ZERO
 >control over fonts - other than using them in Flash movies and static
 >graphics I guess).

Life would certainly be dull if that were entirely true ........ Wink

regards.
 >

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:35 pm
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In article <GccrlgECFOACFwzT DeleteThis @gododdin.demon.co.uk>,
jake <jake DeleteThis @gododdin.demon.co.uk> wrote:

 > In message <367tciF4ur03cU1 DeleteThis @individual.net>, SpaceGirl
 > <NOtheSpaceGirlSPAM DeleteThis @subhuman.net> writes
  > >Fred Atkinson wrote:
   > >> Where can I find fonts that can be used on Web pages? I don't
   > >> care if they are commercial or freeware. Fred
 >
  > >
  > >Embedded:
  > >
  > >There's really no such thing.
 >
 > Yes there is.
 >
  > >Browser support for embedded fonts is really patchy,
 >
 > Nope. Either 100% (IE) or not at all (non-IE).
 >
 > Depending on the application, of course, this may not be much of an
 > issue. Assuming 90% of your potential viewers are IE users, they get to
 > see the downloaded font; the other 10% get to see your recommended
 > substitute or their own default.
 >
  > >and even when they do work you add a big lump
 >
 > 'Big' is relative. Anyway, if they're just used for headings the font
 > file can be very small -- typically 3k or 4k.
 >
  > >that has to be downloaded by the browser which could easily take as
  > >long as a small page all by itself.
 >
 > See above.
 >
  > >AND then you have to worry about licensing.
 >
 > Not really. The embedded font won't even get generated if the font's
 > originator doesn't allow embedding.
 >
  > >It's not worth the hassle.
 >
 > No hassle involved.
  > >
  > >So, basically you're left with, Arial, Verdana (ew!), Tahoma, Times New
  > >Roman, Courier and a few other varients. These are the ones most
  > >commonly installed on a users machine. Other than that, you have ZERO
  > >control over fonts - other than using them in Flash movies and static
  > >graphics I guess).
 >
 > Life would certainly be dull if that were entirely true ........ Wink
 >
 > regards.
  > >

I love Verdana I must confess. It was made specifically for the web.
Verdana for a sans and Georgia for a sarif. Verdana and Georgia were
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Duende

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:35 pm
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While sitting in a puddle jyhm scribbled in the mud:

 > Georgia were
 > designed specifically for out--put

I just wish Georgia would put-out

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