Customer taking IPs with them...

"Gregory Toomey" <nospam RemoveThis @bigpond.com> wrote in message
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 > Tina - AffordableHOST, Inc. wrote:
 >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290814</font" target="_blank">http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290814</font</a>>
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  > > It will be interesting to see how that one turns out.
  > >
  > > --Tina
 >
 > Its a lot more complex than I first thought. Copies of court documents here:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/nac-case/</font" target="_blank">http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/nac-case/</font</a>>
 >
I don't see what all the fuss is about. Many times I and others have had IP#'s
taken from us and replaced with different ones by upstream providers on some
pretex or another. Not much different going the other way. Besides, whats in a
number? As long as you have one, changing them is no big deal.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Bill Logan wrote:

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 > "Gregory Toomey" <nospam.RemoveThis@bigpond.com> wrote in message
 > news:1198780.n2QasAyOVE@GMT-hosting-and-pickle-farming...
  >> Tina - AffordableHOST, Inc. wrote:
  >>
<font color=brown>   >> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290814</font" target="_blank">http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290814</font</a>>
   >> >
   >> > It will be interesting to see how that one turns out.
   >> >
   >> > --Tina
  >>
  >> Its a lot more complex than I first thought. Copies of court documents
<font color=green>  >> here: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/nac-case/</font" target="_blank">http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/nac-case/</font</a>>
  >>
 > I don't see what all the fuss is about. Many times I and others have had
 > IP#'s taken from us and replaced with different ones by upstream providers
 > on some pretex or another. Not much different going the other way.
 > Besides, whats in a number? As long as you have one, changing them is no
 > big deal.

The problem appears to be
- they are a very large dedicated service provider (thousands of
machines ??)
- they are being screwed by their upstream colo/bandwidth provider
- they have uptime guarantees to their downstream clients
- their business could collapse if problems are not sported out

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"Bill Logan" <who.DeleteThis@what.com> wrote in message news:40e4fe29@clear.net.nz...
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 > "Gregory Toomey" <nospam.DeleteThis@bigpond.com> wrote in message
 > news:1198780.n2QasAyOVE@GMT-hosting-and-pickle-farming...
  > > Tina - AffordableHOST, Inc. wrote:
  > >
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290814</font" target="_blank">http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=290814</font</a>>
   > > >
   > > > It will be interesting to see how that one turns out.
   > > >
   > > > --Tina
  > >
  > > Its a lot more complex than I first thought. Copies of court documents
here:
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/nac-case/</font" target="_blank">http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/nac-case/</font</a>>
  > >
 > I don't see what all the fuss is about. Many times I and others have had
IP#'s
 > taken from us and replaced with different ones by upstream providers on
some
 > pretex or another. Not much different going the other way. Besides, whats
in a
 > number? As long as you have one, changing them is no big deal.

While I lean towards the side of UCI got themselves into this mess by not
acting sooner, its not as simple as you make it out to be Bill. It is a
VERY big deal to renumber 1000s of machines and coordinate efforts with
everyone. That said, UCI should have had a better plan of action in place
and started working on a contingency as soon as NAC started giving them
grief.

--Tina<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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