Background Colour won't change - Help?

On 24 Sep 2004 08:58:52 -0700, Lynn <lynn.herrick RemoveThis @lineone.net> wrote:

 > Hi, I am just updating my website and managed to make the background
 > colour black in <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment" target="_blank">www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment</a> but no matter what
 > I try in Dreamweaver OR Frontpage, I can't seem to get it to change in
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment2" target="_blank">www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment2</a> Can anyone see what I'm doing
 > wrong?

Yesh. You're using a WYSI(N)WYG program. Ditch it and learn basic HTML
and CSS: background colours are one of the simplest styles to add to a page

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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:32:51 -0400, GreyWyvern wrote:

 > On 24 Sep 2004 08:58:52 -0700, Lynn <lynn.herrick.RemoveThis@lineone.net> wrote:
 >
  >> Hi, I am just updating my website and managed to make the background
  >> colour black in <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment" target="_blank">www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment</a> but no matter what
  >> I try in Dreamweaver OR Frontpage, I can't seem to get it to change in
  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment2" target="_blank">www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment2</a> Can anyone see what I'm doing
  >> wrong?
 >
 > Yesh. You're using a WYSI(N)WYG program. Ditch it and learn basic HTML
 > and CSS: background colours are one of the simplest styles to add to a page
 >
 > Grey

DW can be used to learn HTML for those who don't want to read boring books.
Tell it to make the background black, switch to source mode and see what
html it created and a light bulb lights up for the html newbie.

Plus it has an editor which is much better than Notepad which the hard core
html person loves to use.


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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:48:54 -0700, Karim <karim3411.DeleteThis@yahoo.moc> wrote:

 > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:32:51 -0400, GreyWyvern wrote:
 >
  >> On 24 Sep 2004 08:58:52 -0700, Lynn <lynn.herrick.DeleteThis@lineone.net> wrote:
  >>
   >>> Hi, I am just updating my website and managed to make the background
   >>> colour black in <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment" target="_blank">www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment</a> but no matter what
   >>> I try in Dreamweaver OR Frontpage, I can't seem to get it to change in
   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment2" target="_blank">www.herrick-photo.co.uk/experiment2</a> Can anyone see what I'm doing
   >>> wrong?
  >>
  >> Yesh. You're using a WYSI(N)WYG program. Ditch it and learn basic HTML
  >> and CSS: background colours are one of the simplest styles to add to a
  >> page
  >>
  >> Grey
 >
 > DW can be used to learn HTML for those who don't want to read boring
 > books.
 > Tell it to make the background black, switch to source mode and see what
 > html it created and a light bulb lights up for the html newbie.

Using it didn't help the OP now, did it?

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GreyWyvern wrote:

 > Yesh.

Great Sean Connery impersonation!

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Spake Lynn unto thee:

 > still a white background on experiment2.

Could it be because you have set the background to white in your global
CSS file? Try adding:

<style type="text/css">
body {
background-color: #000000;
}
</style>

to the <head></head> section of that page, and your global style will be
overridden by the local value.

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Dylan Parry wrote:

 > Spake Lynn unto thee:
 >
  >> still a white background on experiment2.
 >
 > Could it be because you have set the background to white in your global
 > CSS file? Try adding:
 >
 > <style type="text/css">
 > body {
 > background-color: #000000;
 > }
 > </style>
 >
 > to the <head></head> section of that page, and your global style will
be
 > overridden by the local value.

With the greatest of respect to the OP, it sounds like she's starting
from the end, and working her way back.

A good case for learning the basics first.

But I suppose that's Frontpage, Dreamweaver for you.

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Spake Charles Sweeney unto thee:

 > Great Sean Connery impersonation!

Sean Connery might be grey, but I don't think Grey is Sean Connery

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Karim wrote:
: DW can be used to learn HTML for those who don't want to read boring
: books.

At the risk of showing off my utter geekness...

If they think reading HTML books is boring maybe they should not
be creating websites?

*grin*


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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:56:10 GMT, Heidi wrote:

 > Karim wrote:
 >: DW can be used to learn HTML for those who don't want to read boring
 >: books.
 >
 > At the risk of showing off my utter geekness...
 >
 > If they think reading HTML books is boring maybe they should not
 > be creating websites?
 >
 > *grin*


Why not? Why do you want to rob this opportunity from people who do not
want to go under the hood.

There are people who want to doodle around creating webpages without
learning html. It's their right. If you don't like their webpages, do not
visit their sites again.


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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:48:54 -0700 Karim <karim3411.TakeThisOut@yahoo.moc> broke
off from drinking a cup of tea at AllTheNewsGroups.com to write:

  >> Yesh. You're using a WYSI(N)WYG program. Ditch it and learn basic HTML
  >> and CSS: background colours are one of the simplest styles to add to a page
  >>
  >> Grey
 >
 >DW can be used to learn HTML for those who don't want to read boring books.

Well written books are only boring to low-attention span,
unimaginative, geeks

 >Tell it to make the background black, switch to source mode and see what
 >html it created and a light bulb lights up for the html newbie.

Far quicker to find it in print. And less superflous code to wade
through.

 >
 >Plus it has an editor which is much better than Notepad which the hard core
 >html person loves to use.

Notepad? Only ever use it when cutting and pasting text from a web
page to a temporary file. I use a Wordstar compatible editor, I'm
*real* hardcore. None of your wimpy (pun intended) GUI stuff for me.

 >Camera phone photos automatic transfers to your photo album (RSS Enabled)

Deja Vu? I seem to remember another "identity" advertising this
feature.....

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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:05:00 GMT, Matt Probert wrote:

 > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:48:54 -0700 Karim <karim3411.DeleteThis@yahoo.moc> broke
 > off from drinking a cup of tea at AllTheNewsGroups.com to write:
 >
   >>> Yesh. You're using a WYSI(N)WYG program. Ditch it and learn basic HTML
   >>> and CSS: background colours are one of the simplest styles to add to a page
   >>>
   >>> Grey
  >>
  >>DW can be used to learn HTML for those who don't want to read boring books.
 >
 > Well written books are only boring to low-attention span,
 > unimaginative, geeks


You first have to find the *good* book in the middle of all the html crap
books and you have to have the book.



 >
  >>Tell it to make the background black, switch to source mode and see what
  >>html it created and a light bulb lights up for the html newbie.
 >
 > Far quicker to find it in print. And less superflous code to wade
 > through.

And if you do not have an html book?? You're in a plane, camping, jungle,
hotel room.. blah blah.

How is it quicker if you don't know what you're looking for? A newbie
doesn't know about html bgcolor or css's backround property. And a crappy
book index doesn't say anything changing bacground color.

There's nothing superflous with DW. I told DW to change the background
color to white and it created bgcolor="#ffffff". Don't confuse yourself
with Frontpage.




 >
  >>
  >>Plus it has an editor which is much better than Notepad which the hard core
  >>html person loves to use.
 >
 > Notepad? Only ever use it when cutting and pasting text from a web
 > page to a temporary file. I use a Wordstar compatible editor, I'm
 > *real* hardcore. None of your wimpy (pun intended) GUI stuff for me.

Use Google and find all the posts about the html purists favorite tool.
Notepad. People use the tool the works for me.

Does your WordStar thing color code html, xml, script code, pure text
differently? Does it have intellisense type of help where if I can't
remember the css I can use, it's in a dropdown list right there?






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 > Deja Vu? I seem to remember another "identity" advertising this
 > feature.....

Try to learn to stick to the discussion on hand.





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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:05:00 GMT, Matt Probert wrote:

 > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:48:54 -0700 Karim <karim3411 RemoveThis @yahoo.moc> broke
 > off from drinking a cup of tea at AllTheNewsGroups.com to write:
 >
   >>> Yesh. You're using a WYSI(N)WYG program. Ditch it and learn basic HTML
   >>> and CSS: background colours are one of the simplest styles to add to a page
   >>>
   >>> Grey
  >>
  >>DW can be used to learn HTML for those who don't want to read boring books.

[snip]

 > Matt

Let me tell you an interesting thing about DW. I noticed quite a few people
here from the UK bash DW yet here in the US we get all these British
webdesign magazines that hype DW. You know..those colorful magazines where
they always stick a cd on the cover. When I see such a magazine, I know
it's most likely British because they always stick the cd *with* a cover
pretty loosly that they fall off easily. Plus the note on the cover where
it says like "If you don't find the cd, ask your newstand guy"! That cracks
me up.
The magazines cost a bundle like at least $15 because of the cd as if we
can't download these free trial software they put on the cd from the web.
If they skip the cd and make the magazine cheaper, it will serve us better.
No need to send these magazines with the CDs. Broadband is common in the US
and we don't pay per minute charges on our phone system, so dialup people
can just download this stuff overnight.

So maybe you can tell me why they always put a cd with the magazines. Also
why don't they just stick a cd without the cover *inside* a leaflet inside
the magazine so that it doesn't fall off.

However, from a positive point of view, the websites featured in these
magazines look professional and rich and they all were done with
Dreamweaver. So to all who say DW is crappy, unless you used it, you don't
know what you're talking about.



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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:37:55 -0700, Karim <karim3411.TakeThisOut@yahoo.moc> wrote:

 > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:05:00 GMT, Matt Probert wrote:
 >
  >> On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:48:54 -0700 Karim <karim3411.TakeThisOut@yahoo.moc> broke
  >> off from drinking a cup of tea at AllTheNewsGroups.com to write:
   >>>
   >>> Camera phone photos automatic transfers to your photo album (RSS
   >>> Enabled)
  >>
  >> Deja Vu? I seem to remember another "identity" advertising this
  >> feature.....
 >
 > Try to learn to stick to the discussion on hand.

Go home Karim.

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