127.0.0.1 vs localhost

I am having exactly the same problem. Hopefully someone will explain it to us.

Jim

"Daimen" wrote:

 > Hi all,
 >
 > I am encountering a strange problem... when I browse to my (clean
 > install of) iis server (5.1/Windows XP) using localhost, I get the usual
 > localstart.asp and a window that tried to load iishelp... upon further
 > investigation I found that neither images or html will load (for example
 > the WinXP.gif or the postinfo.html will not load), but the asp does run
 > and the output is displayed. However, if I access the site via it's IP
 > (127.0.0.1) I get a login prompt (which I log in with the same user I'm
 > already logged into Windows with) and all works fine. Obviously some
 > permissions thing, but what gives? (Note: that I've already tried
 > un/reinstalling iis).
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Daimen
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 127.0.0.1 vs localhost 

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:29:14 -0400, Daimen <duncan RemoveThis @3w3d.com> wrote:

 >I am encountering a strange problem... when I browse to my (clean
 >install of) iis server (5.1/Windows XP) using localhost, I get the usual
 >localstart.asp and a window that tried to load iishelp... upon further
 >investigation I found that neither images or html will load (for example
 >the WinXP.gif or the postinfo.html will not load), but the asp does run
 >and the output is displayed. However, if I access the site via it's IP
 >(127.0.0.1) I get a login prompt (which I log in with the same user I'm
 >already logged into Windows with) and all works fine. Obviously some
 >permissions thing, but what gives? (Note: that I've already tried
 >un/reinstalling iis).

Two things. First, Zone Alarm may be dropping your images. Second,
IE won't pass credentials to non-local domains, and 127.0.0.1 isn't
local, even though you think it is.

If you want anonymous access, turn off Windows Authentication. If you
want authentication, add the 127.0.0.1 "domain" to your intranet zone
of IE's security. Or just use localhost, or the FQDN of your system
(which likely needs to be trusted by IE as well...)

Jeff<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 127.0.0.1 vs localhost 

In article <41008c8a.17865078.DeleteThis@msnews.microsoft.com>,
jeff.nospam.DeleteThis@zina.com says...
 > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:29:14 -0400, Daimen <duncan.DeleteThis@3w3d.com> wrote:
 >
  > >I am encountering a strange problem... when I browse to my (clean
  > >install of) iis server (5.1/Windows XP) using localhost, I get the usual
  > >localstart.asp and a window that tried to load iishelp... upon further
  > >investigation I found that neither images or html will load (for example
  > >the WinXP.gif or the postinfo.html will not load), but the asp does run
  > >and the output is displayed. However, if I access the site via it's IP
  > >(127.0.0.1) I get a login prompt (which I log in with the same user I'm
  > >already logged into Windows with) and all works fine. Obviously some
  > >permissions thing, but what gives? (Note: that I've already tried
  > >un/reinstalling iis).
 >
 > Two things. First, Zone Alarm may be dropping your images. Second,
 > IE won't pass credentials to non-local domains, and 127.0.0.1 isn't
 > local, even though you think it is.

It's not that the images are being dropped, it's that they're timing out
when trying to be downloaded, IE just keeps trying... and then why would
html behave the same? I'm pretty sure I tried with ZA turned off, that
was one of my suspicions too, but I'll try again when I get home.
Thanks.

 >
 > If you want anonymous access, turn off Windows Authentication. If you
 > want authentication, add the 127.0.0.1 "domain" to your intranet zone
 > of IE's security. Or just use localhost, or the FQDN of your system
 > (which likely needs to be trusted by IE as well...)
 >
 > Jeff
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 127.0.0.1 vs localhost 

This is by design, refer
Intranet site is identified as an Internet site when you use an FQDN or an
IP address
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/?id=303650" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/?id=303650</a>

as for the image not loading issue, check iis log file

--
Regards,
Bernard Cheah
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<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/" target="_blank">http://www.msmvps.com/bernard/</a>



"Daimen" <duncan.DeleteThis@3w3d.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b67d7489e0c00cb989680@msnews.microsoft.com...
 > Hi all,
 >
 > I am encountering a strange problem... when I browse to my (clean
 > install of) iis server (5.1/Windows XP) using localhost, I get the usual
 > localstart.asp and a window that tried to load iishelp... upon further
 > investigation I found that neither images or html will load (for example
 > the WinXP.gif or the postinfo.html will not load), but the asp does run
 > and the output is displayed. However, if I access the site via it's IP
 > (127.0.0.1) I get a login prompt (which I log in with the same user I'm
 > already logged into Windows with) and all works fine. Obviously some
 > permissions thing, but what gives? (Note: that I've already tried
 > un/reinstalling iis).
 >
 > Thanks,
 > Daimen<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 127.0.0.1 vs localhost 

Yup, ZoneAlarm was the culprit... creating a custom rule to allow
connections to localhost fixed the problem. Thanks!

In article <MPG.1b68814e9fc46336989680.DeleteThis@msnews.microsoft.com>, duncan@
3w3d.com says...
 > In article <41008c8a.17865078.DeleteThis@msnews.microsoft.com>,
 > jeff.nospam.DeleteThis@zina.com says...
  > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 02:29:14 -0400, Daimen <duncan.DeleteThis@3w3d.com> wrote:
  > >
   > > >I am encountering a strange problem... when I browse to my (clean
   > > >install of) iis server (5.1/Windows XP) using localhost, I get the usual
   > > >localstart.asp and a window that tried to load iishelp... upon further
   > > >investigation I found that neither images or html will load (for example
   > > >the WinXP.gif or the postinfo.html will not load), but the asp does run
   > > >and the output is displayed. However, if I access the site via it's IP
   > > >(127.0.0.1) I get a login prompt (which I log in with the same user I'm
   > > >already logged into Windows with) and all works fine. Obviously some
   > > >permissions thing, but what gives? (Note: that I've already tried
   > > >un/reinstalling iis).
  > >
  > > Two things. First, Zone Alarm may be dropping your images. Second,
  > > IE won't pass credentials to non-local domains, and 127.0.0.1 isn't
  > > local, even though you think it is.
 >
 > It's not that the images are being dropped, it's that they're timing out
 > when trying to be downloaded, IE just keeps trying... and then why would
 > html behave the same? I'm pretty sure I tried with ZA turned off, that
 > was one of my suspicions too, but I'll try again when I get home.
 > Thanks.
 >
  > >
  > > If you want anonymous access, turn off Windows Authentication. If you
  > > want authentication, add the 127.0.0.1 "domain" to your intranet zone
  > > of IE's security. Or just use localhost, or the FQDN of your system
  > > (which likely needs to be trusted by IE as well...)
  > >
  > > Jeff
  > >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: 127.0.0.1 vs localhost